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<blockquote data-quote="DonTadow" data-source="post: 2749389" data-attributes="member: 22622">Saying the ogres wern't drunk and then saying two minutes later they were, is not fudging, but just completely screwing up the description of that scene.&nbsp; I'd hate that to happen in any game.However, if you never mention that hte ogres were or weren't drunk, and it makes the scene more interesting if as the ogres got closer, you smelled the foul stinch of dwarven ale on their breath, I dont see how that is wrong, even if the original design didn't call for it.&nbsp; If you judge that the original scene would be more interesting if you insert &quot;X&quot; why not.&nbsp; Especially if the players enjoy it (I.E. the dwarf figures that hte ogres got druk off the ale they stole from his family brewery).&nbsp; I believe in the wizard behind the curtain.&nbsp; What the pcs don't know won't hurt them.&nbsp; In my earlier example the pcs didn't know if or not the handrail was there. there was no previous spot check so it wasn't crazy that this handrail didn't apear.&nbsp; It comes down to hte fact that with a good DM only the dm knows if anything is ever fudged.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DonTadow, post: 2749389, member: 22622"] Saying the ogres wern't drunk and then saying two minutes later they were, is not fudging, but just completely screwing up the description of that scene. I'd hate that to happen in any game. However, if you never mention that hte ogres were or weren't drunk, and it makes the scene more interesting if as the ogres got closer, you smelled the foul stinch of dwarven ale on their breath, I dont see how that is wrong, even if the original design didn't call for it. If you judge that the original scene would be more interesting if you insert "X" why not. Especially if the players enjoy it (I.E. the dwarf figures that hte ogres got druk off the ale they stole from his family brewery). I believe in the wizard behind the curtain. What the pcs don't know won't hurt them. In my earlier example the pcs didn't know if or not the handrail was there. there was no previous spot check so it wasn't crazy that this handrail didn't apear. It comes down to hte fact that with a good DM only the dm knows if anything is ever fudged. [/QUOTE]

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