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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 5556044" data-attributes="member: 51942">The way we play is that the effects are completely independant and have their own saves.  If you've got slow (save ends) twice, you get a save for each effect.  If you have ongoing 5 fire three times, you three saves: once for each effect.  Whether two effects are identical or any type of ongoing damage is simply irrelevant under this system.Without save distributions, this results in the following duration distribution:1 save-end effect(s): mean duration of 1 turn + 0.818 more.2 save-end  effect(s): mean duration of 1 turn + 1.382 more.3 save-end effect(s): mean  duration of 1 turn + 1.793 more.4 save-end effect(s): mean duration of 1  turn + 2.108 more.5 save-end effect(s): mean duration of 1 turn + 2.359  more.6 save-end effect(s): mean duration of 1 turn + 2.569 more.7  save-end effect(s): mean duration of 1 turn + 2.747 more.8 save-end  effect(s): mean duration of 1 turn + 2.904 more.9 save-end effect(s): mean  duration of 1 turn + 3.043 more.10 save-end effect(s): mean duration of 1  turn + 3.168 more.11 save-end effect(s): mean duration of 1 turn + 3.282  more.i.e. diminishing returns.This would work - but I think simplicity is a very important virtue in all rules but particularly in house rules.  So while this may be a little fairer in the normal case, it's also more complicated, and I don't think it's necessary.</blockquote>