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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chacal" data-source="post: 1218897" data-attributes="member: 1349">I know, I know ... It's simpler when applied upon leveling, but still complicated.Only raising CL will help the character by giving him a chance to bypass SR/ resist dispel/augment spell effectsBut raising SUL ( more slots) is really useful IMO, and even more with metamagics.It  would be worse because the mystic theurge  gives +1cl for 2 classes and I only give 1.5. Plus the MT gives +1CL, SUL, and SKL.Here's a simpler rule :for each spellcasting class, your casting level isthe minimum of twice the levels that traditionally counts as caster level for this class, and your character level.Same for your SUL, but not for your SKL.So a Wiz 4 Fight 3 cast as a (min(4*2, 7))= 7th level wiz, but is limited to level2 spells.a Wiz4 Ftr 18 cast as a (min(4*2, 18))= 8th level wiz, but is limited to level2 spells.Simpler ? Chacal</blockquote>