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<blockquote data-quote="airwalkrr" data-source="post: 5704165" data-attributes="member: 12460"><p>Well, that's an overgeneralized view, but on the most elemental level, yes. Unless you are playing in a campaign where you have guaranteed access to certain items that benefit more from multiple hits (e.g. vorpal) than focusing on hitting as hard as possible with each hit, THF is generally the best approach unless you are a rogue or other class with lots of sneak attack.</p><p></p><p>TWF isn't broken, it just isn't meant for everyone in D&D. The large amount of feats required to be effective at TWF makes it an inefficient way to increase your damage with most builds relative to the ease with which you can do this by being a THF. So TWF doesn't need to be fixed. The player just needs to be aware of the cases in which it is worthwhile (e.g. rogues) and the cases in which it generally isn't (e.g. barbarians).</p><p></p><p>Consider that the TWF feat chain has significantly diminishing returns. Taking TWF is a pretty good deal sometimes. You get an extra attack as long as you take a -2 penalty to all attacks. But ITWF is worse than TWF because that extra attack you get is at a -5 penalty compared to your primary attack. And GTWF is obviously even worse. But for a rogue, the prospect of getting all that bonus sneak attack damage is often worth it, even if the successive feats are less valuable than the prerequisite feat. Compare that to the Weapon Focus/Specialization feat chain. You get the same bonus for each successive feat that you got for the prerequisite feat so they are arguably at least as good as the prerequisite feat. As a fighter, if you are stuck choosing between the TWF chain and WF/WS chain then clearly WF/WS is a better choice.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="airwalkrr, post: 5704165, member: 12460"] Well, that's an overgeneralized view, but on the most elemental level, yes. Unless you are playing in a campaign where you have guaranteed access to certain items that benefit more from multiple hits (e.g. vorpal) than focusing on hitting as hard as possible with each hit, THF is generally the best approach unless you are a rogue or other class with lots of sneak attack. TWF isn't broken, it just isn't meant for everyone in D&D. The large amount of feats required to be effective at TWF makes it an inefficient way to increase your damage with most builds relative to the ease with which you can do this by being a THF. So TWF doesn't need to be fixed. The player just needs to be aware of the cases in which it is worthwhile (e.g. rogues) and the cases in which it generally isn't (e.g. barbarians). Consider that the TWF feat chain has significantly diminishing returns. Taking TWF is a pretty good deal sometimes. You get an extra attack as long as you take a -2 penalty to all attacks. But ITWF is worse than TWF because that extra attack you get is at a -5 penalty compared to your primary attack. And GTWF is obviously even worse. But for a rogue, the prospect of getting all that bonus sneak attack damage is often worth it, even if the successive feats are less valuable than the prerequisite feat. Compare that to the Weapon Focus/Specialization feat chain. You get the same bonus for each successive feat that you got for the prerequisite feat so they are arguably at least as good as the prerequisite feat. As a fighter, if you are stuck choosing between the TWF chain and WF/WS chain then clearly WF/WS is a better choice. [/QUOTE]
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