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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Steampunkette" data-source="post: 9245437" data-attributes="member: 6796468">I've been trying very carefully not to touch on real world religions in this thread to avoid a lock. But yeah. Gods tend to suck from time to time.ALL of the gods in this game suck at the -same- time is the point. At no point is there an actually healthy relationship between worshipper and religion in the game. It's all trash all the way through.The point isn't "Gods should never be bad and always be invariably kind and perfect" it's "isn't it weird that -all- of them suck in this particular storyline at the same time?"Like. Not one has a wholly healthy relationship. The closest we get is Isobel with Selune but there's the whole "Daughter in Law" angle that kinda twists that up in a weird family power dynamic.And it also doesn't even stop -there-. 'Cause you've got Karlach who has no deity she follows fully intending to go rot on the Fugue Plane for being Faithless. And Gale becomes a god and instantly becomes a distant and unhelpful jerk even though part of his goal in becoming a god was to do so to help people since Mystra wouldn't help him and asked him to destroy himself (and the Sword Coast) for her benefit.Yes. I get it. The Greek gods also sucked. The Roman gods also sucked. Every pantheon has gods that suck and some of them suck pretty much all the time.It's just -weird- that in this story -every- god sucks at the exact same time and there are no examples of gods who don't suck.ARGUABLY Jergal through Withers, but he's not a god anymore and none of the PCs are part of his religion which is the whole thrust of the thread! He stepped down from both the throne of Death for Myrkul and from Divinity -completely- for the Dead Three together. Dude was a seneschal, an exarch. You could -maybe- argue he's a Demigod on the same sort of level as Hercules but for Deadness... but all he does is hang out with your party to provide gameplay-repair services and throw an afterparty like he used to do in Sylvania.Unless we wanna acknowledge that other player companions getting put into Withers' Wardrobe while they're offline so you can grab three origin party members is canonically something that happens alongside the replacement NPCs and 100gp rezzes.<img src="https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/359498652055633921/1196495231286259933/image.png?ex=65b7d604&is=65a56104&hm=0cc0eb1b598303a0821dfadc36b4cf699b2e325513d83f77e2893ab55c8468b7&" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[ATTACH=full]343824[/ATTACH]The only real story bit he actually does for you during gameplay is casts Revivify -once- if you're the Dark Urge. Though he does also advise Arabella, which is pretty cool, but it's to encourage her to bail and do other stuff on her own life-path rather than help fight the Absolute.All of the religious figures in the game suck and betray their followers for their own goals. It's -weird- that that's the only relationships we really get to see.</blockquote>

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