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<blockquote data-quote="Rozman" data-source="post: 1354860" data-attributes="member: 13363"><p>It's circular the same way the "NO crits/SA on undead/constructs/etc." is.</p><p></p><p>The abstracted combat mechanics don't support any targeted/area-specific damage dealing (aside from the Vorpal ability.) A critical hits a non-specified "vital area." A creature immune to criticals & SA has no "vital areas" you can damage with weapons in combat. You can't cut the leg off the zombie because the mechanics don't permit it.</p><p></p><p>The HP/damage relationship in d20 is based upon the creature receiving the damage, not the blow you dealt the creature. A 10 HP blow is a very different thing to a commoner, a 4th level Fighter and a 20th level Fighter. This forces the argument into circularity in each direction.</p><p></p><p>But as Mal Malenkirk mentioned above, it's built into their CR. Critters immune to crits tend not to be the kind of thing that goes unconscious in the first place, so perhaps the blow that put them below 0 HP is the one that took its leg off.</p><p></p><p>I can actually go either way with this one, but by the book is simpler. I don't think it's worth deciding which creature's CR's should actually be affected by allowing crits upon them. Also crits & SA (well, sometimes SA) aren't based on player ingenuity, so I don't see much reason to go above and beyond to reward them.</p><p></p><p>............</p><p></p><p>Now, say someone wants to Stone Shape that Stone Golem's legs back up into its body. How do the mechanics work with that? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rozman, post: 1354860, member: 13363"] It's circular the same way the "NO crits/SA on undead/constructs/etc." is. The abstracted combat mechanics don't support any targeted/area-specific damage dealing (aside from the Vorpal ability.) A critical hits a non-specified "vital area." A creature immune to criticals & SA has no "vital areas" you can damage with weapons in combat. You can't cut the leg off the zombie because the mechanics don't permit it. The HP/damage relationship in d20 is based upon the creature receiving the damage, not the blow you dealt the creature. A 10 HP blow is a very different thing to a commoner, a 4th level Fighter and a 20th level Fighter. This forces the argument into circularity in each direction. But as Mal Malenkirk mentioned above, it's built into their CR. Critters immune to crits tend not to be the kind of thing that goes unconscious in the first place, so perhaps the blow that put them below 0 HP is the one that took its leg off. I can actually go either way with this one, but by the book is simpler. I don't think it's worth deciding which creature's CR's should actually be affected by allowing crits upon them. Also crits & SA (well, sometimes SA) aren't based on player ingenuity, so I don't see much reason to go above and beyond to reward them. ............ Now, say someone wants to Stone Shape that Stone Golem's legs back up into its body. How do the mechanics work with that? :) [/QUOTE]
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