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<blockquote data-quote="Kaledor" data-source="post: 2511806" data-attributes="member: 15360"><p>I liked the link, Joshua. It's got some great details. I especially like how it pairs different incarnations of the same passage from different release times. Really showing, I think, how J.R.R. worked on his mythology -- that is, I know that as he has always seemed like less of a writer and more of a creator. And I remember reading in one of his biographies how his work was very fluid and developed in an oral nature. Many of his stories were shared with his peers at the local "hangout" before being committed to writing. So, it would be completely understandable if there was a little morphing of some details as things were developed. </p><p>I wish there was a more definative answer to the question. From what I've read, I'm sticking to the Balrog = Maiar. Tho' I really like the passage that indicates that Gothmog was once a son of Melkor. **VERY INTERESTING** <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>oooh... now that *IS* one that I have heard before.</p><p>I like the visual of the wings. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> As do many artists that have depicted them to my knowledge...</p><p>But I haven't ever seen a reason for them that I remember except the "wreathed in fire" passage. Is it just that we think of demons as being Winged b/c they're fallen angles and we imagine them with wings (though that too doesn't really make sense).</p><p></p><p>Where do you stand on the wings or no wings?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kaledor, post: 2511806, member: 15360"] I liked the link, Joshua. It's got some great details. I especially like how it pairs different incarnations of the same passage from different release times. Really showing, I think, how J.R.R. worked on his mythology -- that is, I know that as he has always seemed like less of a writer and more of a creator. And I remember reading in one of his biographies how his work was very fluid and developed in an oral nature. Many of his stories were shared with his peers at the local "hangout" before being committed to writing. So, it would be completely understandable if there was a little morphing of some details as things were developed. I wish there was a more definative answer to the question. From what I've read, I'm sticking to the Balrog = Maiar. Tho' I really like the passage that indicates that Gothmog was once a son of Melkor. **VERY INTERESTING** :eek: oooh... now that *IS* one that I have heard before. I like the visual of the wings. :) As do many artists that have depicted them to my knowledge... But I haven't ever seen a reason for them that I remember except the "wreathed in fire" passage. Is it just that we think of demons as being Winged b/c they're fallen angles and we imagine them with wings (though that too doesn't really make sense). Where do you stand on the wings or no wings? [/QUOTE]
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