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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 3161054" data-attributes="member: 1656">The Bane effect increases the enhancement bonus of the weapon.The enhancement bonus of the weapon, when it's a Bane arrow, is the enhancement bonus of the arrow.A +3 bow has a +3 enhancement bonus to attack rolls and damage rolls.  A +1 arrow has a +1 enhancement bonus to attack rolls and damage rolls.  The enhancement bonuses of the bow and the arrow do not stack; only the better one applies.  Applies to what?  To attack rolls and damage rolls.The enhancement bonus of the bow has nothing to do with the enhancement bonus of the arrow; we only compare the two to see which bonus we apply to our attack and damage rolls.So when the Bane quality increases the enhancement bonus of the arrow, why would we alter the enhancement bonus of the bow?  The bow doesn't have the Bane quality.The Bane quality increases the enhancement bonus of the arrow, and the better of the enhancement bonuses of bow and arrow apply.Now, this is indeed assuming that the Bane quality is considered before we determine whether the enhancement bonus of bow or arrow applies.  Let's look at what might happen if we determine whether the enhancement bonus of bow or arrow applies before we consider the Bane quality of the arrow.Let's take a +3 bow shooting a +2 Bane arrow.  We determine whether the enhancement bonus of bow or arrow applies - the bow is better, so the bow's enhancement applies to attack and damage rolls.  Now we consider Bane, which increases the arrow's enhancement bonus from +2 to +4... but it doesn't matter, because we have already determined that the bow's enhancement bonus (+3) applies, not the arrow's enhancement bonus (+4).If we consider Bane before making that determination, the arrow's effective bonus (+4) will apply, not the bow's bonus (+3).So depending on which order we consider the two factors, we apply either a +3 or a +4 to our attack and damage rolls.  But in neither case can we make the arrow's Bane quality apply to the bow's enhancement bonus - the bow does not have the Bane quality!  So +5 cannot occur.-Hyp.</blockquote>

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