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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kreynolds" data-source="post: 1133933" data-attributes="member: 2829">As a DM, I recognize the limitations of the bane ability just as much as the limitations of the ranger's favored enemy. Where a ranger is concerned, a game needs to be catered somewhat to the ranger. If the ranger's selected favored enemies aren't a feature in the game, then the ranger simply doesn't need to be there. It's like a game with a Knight of the Chalice. If the game doesn't involve demons, the KotC is a waste. It's not that a +4 version of bane can't live up to its worth in any game. That's simply not true. It's just that a +4 version of a dragon bane weapon would be fitting in a game with dragons. Take the dragons out, and naturally, it's not worth much anymore.The reverse could even be applied to vorpal. If the game heavily features zombies and other sorts of undead, the +5 of vorpal certainly isn't worth it. Or if a game heavily features creatures with the fire subtype, then a x4 flaming weapon isn't worth anything either.So yes, if a game doesn't feature the proper fuel, a +4 version of bane won't burn very brightly, but the same goes for _any_ version of bane, and even the ranger.No problem. Let me finish a few things up on this one first, then I'll toss up the +3 and begin work on the +2. I think I'm gonna have to do some renaming though.</blockquote>