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Message: <blockquote data-quote="slobster" data-source="post: 6022815" data-attributes="member: 6693711">I've tried to do a heist twice, and not been happy with the results in either case. Both times the PCs were at a loss and would have just gone in guns (metaphorically in one case, literally in the other) blazing if I hadn't had an NPC come along and "suggest" a heist that would get them past security. Still fun both times, but I never got that Ocean's Eleven/The Sting vibe I was shooting for.I don't have much advice for the set-up, but once it's time for the planning of the heist I would lay out all the relevant information for the PCs in very simple, clear terms. Like they were children. I mean, go for broke and tell them exactly what they need to know to get in, and exactly where the problems/hacking/fast talking/gunplay is likely to happen.Chances are good that they'll miss the clue-by-four and come up with some crazy scheme involving 13 tons of C4 and a war-elephant anyway, but all you can do is try. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Other than that, watch the classic movies for inspiration. Like I said, The Sting and Ocean's Eleven are among my favorites. Ronin is good, The Italian Job will do in a pinch, and Lock Stock & Two Smoking Barrels is just insane. I don't know if they'll help you, but it's a fun ride!PS I'm not saying you should railroad your players. If they come up with something that looks good and is totally awesome, let 'em rock and roll. I just want to help you avoid the hour where they stare blankly at a map layout and a security guard schedule, then decide to kill everything and run away with some bags of cash.</blockquote>

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