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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5462273" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>Dracosuave is entirely correct. Retraining is an optional step in the leveling process. So by RAW you can decide to retrain something DURING the level up process, and you only get to change one thing. There is no suggestion anywhere that there is a 'pool' of retraining you can store up.</p><p></p><p>The Character Builder DOES enforce the rules, but you have to understand where it is coming from. CB records the level at which every option was added to the character. Thus it keeps track of the legality of the character at each level. It also keeps track of what level things were retrained at. For instance make a level 11 character and put a Paragon tier feat in your level 1 feat slot. Even though the mix of feats your character has may be 100% legal the character will still be marked as house ruled. This would also be true if at level 1 the character hadn't yet met some ability score prereq or other prereq but does meet it at their actual level.</p><p></p><p>The thing is CB has to be a practical tool. OFTEN players are making characters at higher than first level. The program can't be too much of a straight jacket just from a usability standpoint. It is meant to allow you to put together characters and THEN it will tell you if they conform to the rules. It is not meant to enforce every restriction in the rules as you put the character together. If you want to use it that way then the procedure is to create the character at level 1, make it legal, then level up to level 2, etc and apply one retrain at each level. Obviously if you're entering a high level PC this is very tedious, so the program allows jumping to any level and consequently can't really enforce all the rules of character advancement and still be usable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5462273, member: 82106"] Dracosuave is entirely correct. Retraining is an optional step in the leveling process. So by RAW you can decide to retrain something DURING the level up process, and you only get to change one thing. There is no suggestion anywhere that there is a 'pool' of retraining you can store up. The Character Builder DOES enforce the rules, but you have to understand where it is coming from. CB records the level at which every option was added to the character. Thus it keeps track of the legality of the character at each level. It also keeps track of what level things were retrained at. For instance make a level 11 character and put a Paragon tier feat in your level 1 feat slot. Even though the mix of feats your character has may be 100% legal the character will still be marked as house ruled. This would also be true if at level 1 the character hadn't yet met some ability score prereq or other prereq but does meet it at their actual level. The thing is CB has to be a practical tool. OFTEN players are making characters at higher than first level. The program can't be too much of a straight jacket just from a usability standpoint. It is meant to allow you to put together characters and THEN it will tell you if they conform to the rules. It is not meant to enforce every restriction in the rules as you put the character together. If you want to use it that way then the procedure is to create the character at level 1, make it legal, then level up to level 2, etc and apply one retrain at each level. Obviously if you're entering a high level PC this is very tedious, so the program allows jumping to any level and consequently can't really enforce all the rules of character advancement and still be usable. [/QUOTE]
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