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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6724089" data-attributes="member: 22779">That's not the issue though.  It's not the players doing this.  It's the setting changing effects of spells like this.  If a barbarian tribe has a spell casting druid, they never starve.  A 3rd level druid can feed 60 people a day with goodberries.  A 5th level cleric can feed 30 people per day.  None of this actually costs anything.  And 30 people is a decent sized settlement in Thule.  60 people is a decent sized tribe.  These kinds of spells have a major impact on the setting.  It's not like a 3rd level druid is that difficult to come across.One way is to change the demographics - casting characters are very, very rare.  The trick is, how do you enforce that?  It's inconsistent that casting characters are incredible rare and easy to become at the same time.  Me, I'm not really fussed since I don't apply the PHB to the game world.  The PHB is for players, not NPC's.  But, I do know that that POV is contentious.Now, as far as 5e being low magic - that's another issue.  When the clear majority of classes have spells, it gets a bit wonky to run a low magic campaign.  I don't believe it's a low magic campaign if the party is using magic every encounter.  So, I'll definitely be redacting the PHB in many ways to force the game down to a more mundane level with some magic, rather than a magic game with some mundane.I mean, good grief, my current group has 6 PC's.  4 fighter types and two wizards.  Five out of the six characters have spells or spell effects.   I can see having some work cut out for me to make the campaign stick to genre.  I wonder how people who have run this for Pathfinder fare?  Pathfinder is every bit as magic heavy as 5e.  Any Pathfinder players like to chime in?</blockquote>

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