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Banning Fly, Improved Invisibility, Dimension Door, and Teleport
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<blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 3412689" data-attributes="member: 762"><p>In addition to what everyone else hase said - consider this:</p><p></p><p>the Dungeon adventure paths are designed to be challenging, really really challenging, and they assume PC's will use anything at their disposal to overcome obstacles. </p><p>If you limit the arcane caster - certain other things will likely have to be changed. The problem is you likely won't know what they are untill the party gets there. Very minor spoiler but I'll still hide it [sblock] much of the later adventures occur in a far off land where the party has little to no support [/sblock] depriving the party of something like teleport (to go home and recoup) may hamper them in a way the designers did not intend, and provide for an even greater challenge than already intended. That said, your changes are minor and unlikey to have a huge impact (but you never know, so make sure to plan ahead by seeing if/where the writers may have expected a solution your players can't do - unlikely but their published modules, it happens).</p><p></p><p>Then again, if you have a resourceful group, maybe they like it that way (though then you have to deal with similar effects from non-arcane casters which just makes the arcane casters arbitrarily feel less useful).</p><p></p><p>Also personally, I find teleport a horrible spell - the chance of something going wrong is just too high. Improved invisibility is ok but pretty high level and very short duration, making it hard to use for anything but combat. Diminsion door is primarily an escape spell - not a movement spell. And fly, well personally I just like 3 dimensions sometimes, but really it's not that big a deal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mort, post: 3412689, member: 762"] In addition to what everyone else hase said - consider this: the Dungeon adventure paths are designed to be challenging, really really challenging, and they assume PC's will use anything at their disposal to overcome obstacles. If you limit the arcane caster - certain other things will likely have to be changed. The problem is you likely won't know what they are untill the party gets there. Very minor spoiler but I'll still hide it [sblock] much of the later adventures occur in a far off land where the party has little to no support [/sblock] depriving the party of something like teleport (to go home and recoup) may hamper them in a way the designers did not intend, and provide for an even greater challenge than already intended. That said, your changes are minor and unlikey to have a huge impact (but you never know, so make sure to plan ahead by seeing if/where the writers may have expected a solution your players can't do - unlikely but their published modules, it happens). Then again, if you have a resourceful group, maybe they like it that way (though then you have to deal with similar effects from non-arcane casters which just makes the arcane casters arbitrarily feel less useful). Also personally, I find teleport a horrible spell - the chance of something going wrong is just too high. Improved invisibility is ok but pretty high level and very short duration, making it hard to use for anything but combat. Diminsion door is primarily an escape spell - not a movement spell. And fly, well personally I just like 3 dimensions sometimes, but really it's not that big a deal. [/QUOTE]
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