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Barbarian - Background/Theme or Class?
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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5944112" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>Chalk up another vote for Barbarian as a Background. As Grydan noted, since we know that Backgrounds are the cultural placement/elements of the character, Barbarian makes the most sense there. </p><p></p><p>Things like their Endurance, Wilderness Lore, Keen Senses, etc. can be given to the Barbarian Background.</p><p></p><p>The Berserker then, is the Theme, that gives the Rage/combat related stuff. The "How you do it" part of the "what you do."</p><p></p><p>So, for a traditional "D&D Barbarian" class, you would go Fighter class/Barbarian BG/Berserker theme. Other classes, of course could take the Barbarian BG and/or the Berserker theme...to give you your "spell raging mages" (Mage class/something BG/Berserker Theme) or your tribal PCs (Rogue class/Barbarian BG/Lurker Theme, etc...)</p><p></p><p>Barbarians have never been purely a "class" in my games, for decades. Not in the ways that 3e and 4e allowed them. They are a culture and a class...you had to be human...of a particular set of tribes from this particular part of the world...and then could be a "Barbarian" (raging, tracking, resistance to magic, etc. etc.) on top of that. You could also easily just be a Fighter or thief or shaman of these tribes...but most were considered (among the rest of the world) to be "barbarians" (small "b") because you were one of those tribesmen.</p><p></p><p>The concepts that you could have a "gentrified elf" or a "city-born halfling" or anything like that and be a "Barbarian" just NEVER made sense to me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5944112, member: 92511"] Chalk up another vote for Barbarian as a Background. As Grydan noted, since we know that Backgrounds are the cultural placement/elements of the character, Barbarian makes the most sense there. Things like their Endurance, Wilderness Lore, Keen Senses, etc. can be given to the Barbarian Background. The Berserker then, is the Theme, that gives the Rage/combat related stuff. The "How you do it" part of the "what you do." So, for a traditional "D&D Barbarian" class, you would go Fighter class/Barbarian BG/Berserker theme. Other classes, of course could take the Barbarian BG and/or the Berserker theme...to give you your "spell raging mages" (Mage class/something BG/Berserker Theme) or your tribal PCs (Rogue class/Barbarian BG/Lurker Theme, etc...) Barbarians have never been purely a "class" in my games, for decades. Not in the ways that 3e and 4e allowed them. They are a culture and a class...you had to be human...of a particular set of tribes from this particular part of the world...and then could be a "Barbarian" (raging, tracking, resistance to magic, etc. etc.) on top of that. You could also easily just be a Fighter or thief or shaman of these tribes...but most were considered (among the rest of the world) to be "barbarians" (small "b") because you were one of those tribesmen. The concepts that you could have a "gentrified elf" or a "city-born halfling" or anything like that and be a "Barbarian" just NEVER made sense to me. [/QUOTE]
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