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<blockquote data-quote="mickeymacattack" data-source="post: 5353789" data-attributes="member: 96617"><p>Well as it stands right now my reason for not trying to go the "debatable" route is simply because I don't want to give my DM any more reason to hate me (besides being a FB) by trying to get around said traits with questionable tactics. I have read long and hard all the arguments about the various feats or tactics for it, some I agree with others not so much. Regardless I don't want to debate it as its easier for everyone if I just don't push the envelope.</p><p></p><p>I like the suggestion about only taking a few levels of FB but the main reason I want to go that route is the power attack tree which is basically what I am trying to wrap my guy around. I have a nice little back story which I was surprised to find my DM actually likes as well. If I did that I would want to take at least 5 levels of FB to get improved power attack.</p><p></p><p>If I remember correctly maneuvers do not require any sort of actual train of thought correct? So in that instance even under the effects of a frenzy they could still be used.</p><p></p><p>For the moment basically what I have setup for my character is going with steadfast determination which at this point will net me +5 to will (CON is 20), the plucky trait will give me another +1, iron will is +2 and by the time I would be taking FB at 10th level I would have a will save of +11 (not including any items or bonus during rage) at that point I could tack on cumbrous will and get me another what +6?</p><p></p><p>If there are better ways to increase my damage I would certainly like to hear them, I am not very familiar with tome of battle or psionics and while the DM is letting us use the psionics handbook everyone in the party has pretty much agreed not to use it since it seems a bit much.</p><p></p><p>Thank you for the reply by the way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mickeymacattack, post: 5353789, member: 96617"] Well as it stands right now my reason for not trying to go the "debatable" route is simply because I don't want to give my DM any more reason to hate me (besides being a FB) by trying to get around said traits with questionable tactics. I have read long and hard all the arguments about the various feats or tactics for it, some I agree with others not so much. Regardless I don't want to debate it as its easier for everyone if I just don't push the envelope. I like the suggestion about only taking a few levels of FB but the main reason I want to go that route is the power attack tree which is basically what I am trying to wrap my guy around. I have a nice little back story which I was surprised to find my DM actually likes as well. If I did that I would want to take at least 5 levels of FB to get improved power attack. If I remember correctly maneuvers do not require any sort of actual train of thought correct? So in that instance even under the effects of a frenzy they could still be used. For the moment basically what I have setup for my character is going with steadfast determination which at this point will net me +5 to will (CON is 20), the plucky trait will give me another +1, iron will is +2 and by the time I would be taking FB at 10th level I would have a will save of +11 (not including any items or bonus during rage) at that point I could tack on cumbrous will and get me another what +6? If there are better ways to increase my damage I would certainly like to hear them, I am not very familiar with tome of battle or psionics and while the DM is letting us use the psionics handbook everyone in the party has pretty much agreed not to use it since it seems a bit much. Thank you for the reply by the way. [/QUOTE]
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