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<blockquote data-quote="Cadfan" data-source="post: 4496711" data-attributes="member: 40961"><p>Well, I wrote a giant post but an accidental log out ate it.</p><p></p><p>In short,</p><p></p><p>1. Striker? I lose.</p><p></p><p>2. AC doesn't scale right since neither dex nor int are favored. Chainmail proficiency will become a must have, or else con or cha must be sacrificed.</p><p></p><p>3. Pressing Strike is so much better than Deft Strike that it isn't even funny.</p><p></p><p>4. Recuperating Strike similarly owns Bolstering Strike.</p><p></p><p>5. I know you can't make direct comparisons like that without context, but it does stick out.</p><p></p><p>6. Rage Strike is interesting, but why isn't it available at level 5 when you can first use it? Maybe the class description should call out the fact that it is only a desirable thing to use when your back's against a wall? Change the name to "Desperation Strike."</p><p></p><p>7. Hammer Fall is like Topple Over, except probably better. More jealousy for my rogue.</p><p></p><p>8. This class looks good, but it also looks seriously difficult to use. You have to know when to slip into the middle of the battle and lay out everyone around you with close bursts, and when to get out of dodge because your hit points are being sucked away.</p><p></p><p>9. This class doesn't mark, but its AC is so low that its almost like its marking everyone adjacent to it anyways. Seriously, a starting AC of 14 is pretty likely, and by level 30 that's only going to improve to about a 24 unless you invest in chainmail or put points in dex.</p><p></p><p>I'll have to stat up some trial characters to see what they really look like when you put them together. Its hard to visualize the power level because there are so many bonuses creeping in from multiple sources, like the rages and the way they augment everything you do.</p><p></p><p>The only thing that leaps out at me as unbalanced is Pressing Strike. I think its too good. Its a single power that, alone, makes this class as maneuverable as a Ranger or Rogue. Without that power, I don't think I'd even agree with the designers that this was a Striker class. But with it, I'm concerned that the Barbarian becomes the most maneuverable of all the strikers when it comes to the most important forms of maneuverability the game has.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cadfan, post: 4496711, member: 40961"] Well, I wrote a giant post but an accidental log out ate it. In short, 1. Striker? I lose. 2. AC doesn't scale right since neither dex nor int are favored. Chainmail proficiency will become a must have, or else con or cha must be sacrificed. 3. Pressing Strike is so much better than Deft Strike that it isn't even funny. 4. Recuperating Strike similarly owns Bolstering Strike. 5. I know you can't make direct comparisons like that without context, but it does stick out. 6. Rage Strike is interesting, but why isn't it available at level 5 when you can first use it? Maybe the class description should call out the fact that it is only a desirable thing to use when your back's against a wall? Change the name to "Desperation Strike." 7. Hammer Fall is like Topple Over, except probably better. More jealousy for my rogue. 8. This class looks good, but it also looks seriously difficult to use. You have to know when to slip into the middle of the battle and lay out everyone around you with close bursts, and when to get out of dodge because your hit points are being sucked away. 9. This class doesn't mark, but its AC is so low that its almost like its marking everyone adjacent to it anyways. Seriously, a starting AC of 14 is pretty likely, and by level 30 that's only going to improve to about a 24 unless you invest in chainmail or put points in dex. I'll have to stat up some trial characters to see what they really look like when you put them together. Its hard to visualize the power level because there are so many bonuses creeping in from multiple sources, like the rages and the way they augment everything you do. The only thing that leaps out at me as unbalanced is Pressing Strike. I think its too good. Its a single power that, alone, makes this class as maneuverable as a Ranger or Rogue. Without that power, I don't think I'd even agree with the designers that this was a Striker class. But with it, I'm concerned that the Barbarian becomes the most maneuverable of all the strikers when it comes to the most important forms of maneuverability the game has. [/QUOTE]
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