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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Felon" data-source="post: 4498956" data-attributes="member: 8158">I'd say the warlock is in worse shape, and it's not just limited to star pact either. True, the warlock has ranged attacks, but they're very short range; he's not sniping from a clock tower or anything. It's short enough that enemies can close the distance to melee if they desire, and that's to say nothing of the fact that (contrary to the bizarre notion I've encountered often) quite a few monsters are actually quite capable of attacking from range themselves. In general, monsters can pull off a lot of the same maneuvers that PC's can, so if they're consistently pancaking against the party's front line, then that's just that particular DM allowing things to happen that way by not using skirmishers, lurkers, and artillery monsters to good effect.And once the flawed notion that ranged attacks equate to safety is off the table, then what's left? The warlock has both lower defense and lower offense than the other strikers, barb included.See above. Apparently, it must be balanced since the 'lock, whose limited to leather, is stuck with the same HP as a rogue.</blockquote>