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<blockquote data-quote="Cadence" data-source="post: 6039078" data-attributes="member: 6701124">I just can't believe its supposed to allow saves against the unsavable -- Magic missile? Power word kill?&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Wouldn't that be mathematically equivalent to &quot;Grants spell&nbsp; resistance equal to your save bonus against things any spell or&nbsp; spell-like effect that doesn't usually grant a save&quot;?&nbsp; And wouldn't they have to say what kind of save (Fort/Refl/Will) you get to make?&nbsp;&nbsp; I was actually wondering about Prayer though.&nbsp; If he considers himself to not be an ally of someone casting this on him (or isn't even allowed to), shouldn't he be counted as a foe and take the -1 penalties? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />I think that's fine...&nbsp; he just shouldn't be surprised if the party decides the PC is more trouble than he's worth at some point and either ditches him, or lets him die instead of violating his beliefs and using the appropriate spell to save him.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cadence, post: 6039078, member: 6701124"] I just can't believe its supposed to allow saves against the unsavable -- Magic missile? Power word kill? Wouldn't that be mathematically equivalent to "Grants spell resistance equal to your save bonus against things any spell or spell-like effect that doesn't usually grant a save"? And wouldn't they have to say what kind of save (Fort/Refl/Will) you get to make? I was actually wondering about Prayer though. If he considers himself to not be an ally of someone casting this on him (or isn't even allowed to), shouldn't he be counted as a foe and take the -1 penalties? ;) I think that's fine... he just shouldn't be surprised if the party decides the PC is more trouble than he's worth at some point and either ditches him, or lets him die instead of violating his beliefs and using the appropriate spell to save him. [/QUOTE]

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