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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6366672" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Just adding something in.</p><p></p><p>10th level rogue wielding dual shortswords and with a party member in the melee line.</p><p></p><p>Dex 20 + Studded Leather - AC 17. Reaction to Uncanny Dodge to halve damage. DTPR is roughly equal to the Barbarian.</p><p></p><p>Attacks: +9/+9 (I'm assuming that's what you meant for Leaf as well - Prof went up to +4 at level 9)</p><p>Damage: d6+5 / d6 - w/5d6 Sneak Attack if either hit.</p><p>Ignoring crits that's 0.55*(d6+5+d6) + (1-(.45*.45))*(5*3.5)</p><p>=.55*12 + 319/400*17.5</p><p>= 6.6 +13.96</p><p>= 20.56 DPR</p><p></p><p>Alas poor fighter!</p><p></p><p>At 5th level vs the Ankylosaurus, Dex 18 (double check your barbarian please! I'm only getting him to Str 19)</p><p></p><p>AC 16, attacks: +7/+7 (Again, assuming that's what you meant for Leaf - Prof went up at +5? - Using Leaf's probabilities here)</p><p>Damage: d6+4 / d6 - w/3d6 Sneak Attack if either hit.</p><p>Ignoring crits that's 0.6*(d6+4+d6) + (1-(.4*.4))*(3*3.5)</p><p>= .6*11 + .84 * 10.5</p><p>= 15.4 DPR</p><p></p><p>DPR for the rogue, assuming a partner, is <em>ahead</em> of the raging barbarian at this level. (Assuming no flanking partner, the rogue wins in the running away stakes and actually lasts a while).</p><p>(DTPR is about 6.2 now you have defensive roll).</p><p></p><p>I'm also not really trying here. I haven't included anything to do with archetypes, and I'm pretty sure a rogue wins the out of combat race.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6366672, member: 87792"] Just adding something in. 10th level rogue wielding dual shortswords and with a party member in the melee line. Dex 20 + Studded Leather - AC 17. Reaction to Uncanny Dodge to halve damage. DTPR is roughly equal to the Barbarian. Attacks: +9/+9 (I'm assuming that's what you meant for Leaf as well - Prof went up to +4 at level 9) Damage: d6+5 / d6 - w/5d6 Sneak Attack if either hit. Ignoring crits that's 0.55*(d6+5+d6) + (1-(.45*.45))*(5*3.5) =.55*12 + 319/400*17.5 = 6.6 +13.96 = 20.56 DPR Alas poor fighter! At 5th level vs the Ankylosaurus, Dex 18 (double check your barbarian please! I'm only getting him to Str 19) AC 16, attacks: +7/+7 (Again, assuming that's what you meant for Leaf - Prof went up at +5? - Using Leaf's probabilities here) Damage: d6+4 / d6 - w/3d6 Sneak Attack if either hit. Ignoring crits that's 0.6*(d6+4+d6) + (1-(.4*.4))*(3*3.5) = .6*11 + .84 * 10.5 = 15.4 DPR DPR for the rogue, assuming a partner, is [I]ahead[/I] of the raging barbarian at this level. (Assuming no flanking partner, the rogue wins in the running away stakes and actually lasts a while). (DTPR is about 6.2 now you have defensive roll). I'm also not really trying here. I haven't included anything to do with archetypes, and I'm pretty sure a rogue wins the out of combat race. [/QUOTE]
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