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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 2402123" data-attributes="member: 710">But you need 4 or 5 levels of Rangers before you can actually use the Wands (in 3.5, you gain no caster level before you gain spells). And the Ranger reduces your hps per level again, and still does nothing to improve your armor class (on contrary, you definitely limit yourself to light armor now, unless you don´t care for the combat style)A Barbarian/Fighter is probably still the best multiclassing choice (for both classes) - you can´t use Fast Movement, but raging in heavy armor is very useful. The biggest problem for a Barbarian is that he takes too much damage per round. Without a Cleric, a Barbarian is unconcious faster then you´d think. With a Cleric, you force him to waste most of his spells (and possibly enjoyment) on healing you, instead of engaging the enemy. (And the Barbarian will probably be the primary target of all enemies, since he deals a lot of damage but is easy hittable...)</blockquote>