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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 2406208" data-attributes="member: 3146">Let's test this assertion:Heavy Armor+5 mithral fullplate: AC 26 (13 armor, 3 dex)+5 fullplate: AC 24 (13 armor, 1 dex)Light armor: Celestial Armor: AC 26 (+8 armor, 8 dex)+5 mithral chain shirt: AC 25 (+9 armor, +6 dex)No armor:+8 bracers of armor: AC infinite (8 armor, infinite dex)So, unless you're using non-core rules or applying a clvl 16+ magic vestment to a suit of Celestial Armor, you can't get a better armor class using light armor than you can using mithral fullplate.In order to get better than mithral fullplate with no armor (and without monk levels), you need +8 bracers of armor and a 28+ dexterity. If you start with a 20 dex, you can get a dexterity of 36 by level 20. (+5 levels, +5 inherent, +6 enhancement). If you don't start with at least a 12 dexterity, you can never do better than mithral fullplate (except for the celestial armor+magic vestment trick). If you don't put your stat bumps into dex (because you need them for things like strength and con), even starting with a 20 dex, you need to get a +2 inherent bonus in order to be able to exceed the armor class available through mithral fullplate.So, some characters can get better AC with no armor than with armor. Among armors, only Celestial Armor offers a better AC than mithral fullplate, and even then it can only do that when combined with a 26 dex and clvl 20 magic vestment.In any event, for the vast majority of characters (who don't get to start with a 20 dex and might want to put their statbumps into strength), even bracers of armor +8 can't compete with mithral (or even normal) fullplate without inherent bonusses to dexterity--which are very pricey. And that doesn't even bring up that a character can buy +5 mithral fullplate and +6 gloves of dexterity for only a little more than the cost of the +8 bracers of armor alone (without dex gloves or inherent bonuses to dex).</blockquote>

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