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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 6752681" data-attributes="member: 12731">I see where you're coming from, but really, why not throw a much more dangerous foe at them?I mean, a fully rested party that isn't still in tier 1 (where one unlucky swing can be too much of a big deal) can easily handle far deadlier foes than suggested by the encounter and challenge rating system. A five-man level 5 party that isn't depleted from prior encounters should be robust enough to weather a CR 10 solo creature no matter how un-optimized. If your group consists of minmaxers, and you want to really challenge them, that's as easy as throwing a Mummy Lord at them (CR 15). If your group is anything like my group, and you want them to face a foe so awesome they seriously consider fleeing instead of actually taking him down, then you would probably have to quadruple their own level.Of course, 5th edition is a curious beast. The danger is seriously lying in numbers. I mean that Mummy Lord goes from a potentially embarrassing wrap of easy xp to an guaranteed total party kill just by adding half a dozen underlings. That level 5 party can't do a thing against the Mummy Lord if you just add five ordinary Mummies to his side.On the other hand, make that a level 11 party, and they will cut through those extra Mummies like nothing, again making the Mummy Lord a pushover (since, again, he's effectively reduced to facing the heroes alone). Which tells me the system is working <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 6752681, member: 12731"] I see where you're coming from, but really, why not throw a much more dangerous foe at them? I mean, a fully rested party that isn't still in tier 1 (where one unlucky swing can be too much of a big deal) can easily handle far deadlier foes than suggested by the encounter and challenge rating system. A five-man level 5 party that isn't depleted from prior encounters should be robust enough to weather a CR 10 solo creature no matter how un-optimized. If your group consists of minmaxers, and you want to really challenge them, that's as easy as throwing a Mummy Lord at them (CR 15). If your group is anything like my group, and you want them to face a foe so awesome they seriously consider fleeing instead of actually taking him down, then you would probably have to quadruple their own level. Of course, 5th edition is a curious beast. The danger is seriously lying in numbers. I mean that Mummy Lord goes from a potentially embarrassing wrap of easy xp to an guaranteed total party kill just by adding half a dozen underlings. That level 5 party can't do a thing against the Mummy Lord if you just add five ordinary Mummies to his side. On the other hand, make that a level 11 party, and they will cut through those extra Mummies like nothing, again making the Mummy Lord a pushover (since, again, he's effectively reduced to facing the heroes alone). Which tells me the system is working :) [/QUOTE]

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