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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 7478834" data-attributes="member: 67338">OK, well damage is good the reason the spell is GREAT against armored enemies isn't the damage. see there is this add onso the arrow hits and deals damage... as far as having to deal 7 or more points, I don't know how likely it is in your game, but in my game world most archers have a 15+ dex so at least a +2 most times +3 or more... you roll 1d8 and ad 2 and that just worse then 50/50, make it +3 and it is 50/50, give him sharp shooter it is 100%...so lets say you have a big multi attack monster (a solo for lack of a better word) and your archer shoots him and deals 9 damage and it sticks, then the bard goes and makes it 2d8 extra damage AND disadvantage until they remove the arrow.</blockquote>