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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herbalizer" data-source="post: 6839973" data-attributes="member: 6824144">Thanks !Sorry for the mess..It had breaks when I wrote it ..not sure why it was posted like that !The reason why I am planning ahead like that is that I have to decide now to go either WIS 13, CON 13 or WIS 14 CON 12 ...If I go 13/13, and take War Caster, I will have wasted the extra point of CON (that doesn't serve any purposes) and lost +1 on WIS saves, 1 spell prepared and bonuses on spells that use wis-mod, like healing spells.  We'll be a bit under powered so every little advantages help. If I plan on getting War Caster, I don't need the 13 CON, hence I would go WIS 14, CON 12. If I'm going to get resilience-CON, the n I would go 13/13 so that the +1 to CON brings my total to 14 and get the +2 modifier.I couldn't find the guides you were referring to but good point on Shield of Faith ...never thought of it this wayDoes anyone knows a place that lists spells along with their save types?  I'd be curious to know many spells require CON saves and what kind of spells they are</blockquote>