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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herbalizer" data-source="post: 6840579" data-attributes="member: 6824144">Actually, I can't have this.  Here is the starting stat (we're using point point spread, not STR : 8DEX : 15 CON : 12WIS : 13 (+1)INT : 10CHA : 14 (+2) = 16I can either have 15,14,13 ; 16,14,12 or 16,13,13Plus, the goal was to take resilience (CON) to get proficiency on CON saves and concentration checks...If I start with CON=14, that means I can either have:1. 15 DEX and 13 WIS which gives me -1 on attack rolls, damage, skill checks, saves, and -1 on will saves, ability checks, -1 spell prepared AND I am not better with concentration checks.  Although, at 5th, I can increase DEX and WIS and gain all those abilities (except proficiency in CON saves) and I have an extra 5 HPor2.12 DEX and 16 WIS, which is a bit of an overkill and I sacrifice too much for extra HPsThe other options are3.16 DEX, 13 CON and 13 WIS which allows me to multiclass, and although I am wasting 2 points, at 5th, if I take resilience-CON, I get 14 and start getting extra HPs while now being proficient with CON saves (which not only helps with concentration checks, but help to resists spells with CON saves)4.16 DEX, 12 CON and 14 WIS.  In this case, WIS checks are decent, I get an extra spell prepared (compare to option 1 and 3) but if I take resilience-CON, I am not getting the +2 ability modifier ...and so at the 10th level, I get 5 less HP than option 3 and 10 less HP than option 1 ...As crazy as it sounds, I am leaning towards option 4, even if I wouldn't take advantage of the +1 to CON (I'd still become proficient in CON, which I think is a huge benefit).  I think the +1 spell, DC, spell attack roll, ability checks and saves, outweighs the extra 5-10 HPs ...especially since I am not expecting to reach level 20 ...I've never ever reached more than level 9 with any character I've ever played !</blockquote>

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