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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Herbalizer" data-source="post: 6840739" data-attributes="member: 6824144">I was comparing to the CON=12 vs CON=15...For the first 5 levels, the CON=15 has +2 while CON=12 has +1, hence 5HP differential ...Then when I'd get the resilient feat at 5th, CON=16 would get +3, while CON=13 would still only have +1 ..hence the difference is 2HP per level for 5 levels (10) .Therefore 5+10 = 15Yes, the concept I initially wanted was a skill monkey caster.  I can replace a thief, which we don't have, and offer support (healing/buffs/offence/whatever we need).  With another melee character, I would stay in the back, buff, debuff, heal and do crown control ...But because we are only 3, I know I'll be a target ...We can't have the Barbarian get surrounded while the Sorcerer and Bard stay behind because he'll get overwhelmed.  Basically, I need to be whatever is needed depending on the encounters so I wanted versatility.  I plan on only taking 1 feat to gain CON proficiency, then raise CHA at 8 and 12 (MAX), and if I make it to 16 and 19 then I might consider other feats ...we'll see how my character develops ...I mean I plan on casting whenever possible, but spells are limited, and with fewer targets, that means I'll have to get my hands dirty from time to time ..the sorcerer can't melee and up until level 8, a +3 on attack and damage is decent I think. For the first 4 levels, I can have AC=18 (Med + shield) and have +3 on attack/damage ..which is pretty close to any other melee fighter with a longsword, shield and chainmail and good enough to finish off an opponent.  When the Barbarian starts to get that 2nd attack and be sturdier, I'll be able to stand in the back a bit more and perform crown control (which is when I'll need concentration the most).Seriously, this was of great help...I mean, there might be some better Bard/Cleric built out there but I think I found the one that'll fit my concept and situation !?THX</blockquote>

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