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<blockquote data-quote="Gnome" data-source="post: 2055702" data-attributes="member: 27530">Maybe I'm wierd, but I like the idea of a dwarf bard, especially if you want to make a more meele-capable bard.&nbsp; It might be worthwhile to take 1 level of fighter for the feat, martial weapons and armor proficiencies.&nbsp; This will also let you use the dwarven waraxe one-handed due to weapon familiarity.&nbsp; That, along with the CON bonus will let you hold your own in meele quite nicely in addition to your other abilities.For additional wackyness, a recent Dragon magazine talked about having bards wear heavy armor for additional protection.&nbsp; This won't interfere with bardic music abilities, at all.&nbsp; As for skills, if you focus on skills that don't have an armor check penalty (like all of the CHA-based skills), then this won't be a problem.As for spellcasting, any spell that doesn't have a somatic component will be unaffected.&nbsp; This is only a handful of spells, however.&nbsp; Eventually, once you can afford to get mithril full plate armor and a mithril shield, this will only give you 25% arcane spell failure, and you won't be slowed at all due to your race.&nbsp; Seems like a decent trade-off for a secondary caster.Oh, and here's a 30-point 1st-level build for this guy:STR 14 (6)DEX 14 (6)CON 16 (adjusted from 14 - 6)INT 10 (2)WIS 8CHA 14 (adjusted from 16 - 10)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gnome, post: 2055702, member: 27530"] Maybe I'm wierd, but I like the idea of a dwarf bard, especially if you want to make a more meele-capable bard. It might be worthwhile to take 1 level of fighter for the feat, martial weapons and armor proficiencies. This will also let you use the dwarven waraxe one-handed due to weapon familiarity. That, along with the CON bonus will let you hold your own in meele quite nicely in addition to your other abilities. For additional wackyness, a recent Dragon magazine talked about having bards wear heavy armor for additional protection. This won't interfere with bardic music abilities, at all. As for skills, if you focus on skills that don't have an armor check penalty (like all of the CHA-based skills), then this won't be a problem. As for spellcasting, any spell that doesn't have a somatic component will be unaffected. This is only a handful of spells, however. Eventually, once you can afford to get mithril full plate armor and a mithril shield, this will only give you 25% arcane spell failure, and you won't be slowed at all due to your race. Seems like a decent trade-off for a secondary caster. Oh, and here's a 30-point 1st-level build for this guy: STR 14 (6) DEX 14 (6) CON 16 (adjusted from 14 - 6) INT 10 (2) WIS 8 CHA 14 (adjusted from 16 - 10) [/QUOTE]

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