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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Obryn" data-source="post: 4730356" data-attributes="member: 11821">Rather than the rather snarky post I had written, I'll try to reasonably address your points. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Well...  I can't let this one slide completely.  Any time you bring up the dreaded WoW/Final Fantasy/Diablo/Other Videogame Comparisons of Doom, you're going to raise some hackles.  Also, you're being kind of glib about this topic, and I don't know if you're trying to make it seem more ridiculous or actually trying to understand it - I'm not sure, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.So... the bard's songs are not actually killing things.  Their music is not actually doing damage.  Their voices are not setting up reverberations which shatter bones.  Much like a Wizard, they are casting spells.  And, much like a Swordmage, they are magically enhancing their weapon attacks, too.  It's part and parcel of being an Arcane class.  They just evoke magic through song, rather than through a few "Abracadabra"s or a few "Dear-God-Please-Smite-My-Enemy-Amen"s.I'll skip the Gambler class, because I don't think you were being serious.  You evidently thought it would also be ridiculous, and maybe somehow show how ridiculous the bard is in your mind.  I agree - the gambler would be ridiculous, so it's fortunate that we don't have one of those.Well, hopefully you can get a different perspective.  Just don't think of it as music actually doing stuff - it's arcane magic doing the stuff, much like what a Wizard does, and really no more ridiculous.  IMHO, if you can accept that a wizard casts spells with magic words and gestures, it's not much of a stretch to accept that a bard can cast spells with magic melodies and gestures.I think this is another reason folks kinda reacted badly to your post - including myself.  This is a very dismissive way to handle any questions; it's like you're not even engaging with the concept on a level where you can productively discuss it.  Glib dismissals don't go over too well on teh intarwebs unless it's to a room full of like-minded folks for a few lulz.  If lulz are what you were going for, I think it's a little crazy to assert you were "just stating your opinion" and hence ...  I dunno, your ideas were immune to criticism?-O</blockquote>

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