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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrym" data-source="post: 9505444" data-attributes="member: 6750235">Valor bards don't gain all the AC and all the attacks; there's a bit of either / or going on there.  There's also an opportunity cost in taking CME regardless of it being a good damage choice.  Damage isn't everything.  ;-) That's misleading.  Valor bards don't offer a debuff and have no way of directly using bardic inspiration on an opponent that way.  Combat inspiration is only a buff to allies.Most martial weapons the valor bard would use are a minor damage boost.  It's d8 vs d6 weapons.  Like numbers of attacks, the better weapon damage options require giving up the AC bonus from the shield.The armor training is good but there's a disadvantage conflict with half-plate that costs some bards that point of AC, and it can be marginalized by a DEX valor bard who has the same AC with light armor.Yup, valor got a good 6th level feature.  All four 2024 bard subclasses have good 6th level features to match.  Valor has cantrip spam built into extra attack, lore suddenly has the broadest spell access, dance has two good abilities, and glamour gains the ability to spam the command spell.This is also very good.  But if you're still cantrip spamming you're not using actions on other spells and should be selecting spells with that in mind.</blockquote>