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<blockquote data-quote="shadyizok" data-source="post: 5899682" data-attributes="member: 81286"><p><strong>Intro</strong></p><p>Hiya, so I'm in a campaign where we switch DM duties after each adventure. Every adventure we start at the next lvl with regular wealth by lvl. I'm DMing right now but in a session or two I'll have to play a new character. Our party consists out of an oracle, a zenarcher monk, a paladin, a magus, a barbarian plus my character (one of these won't be in the adventure as the player is DMing). I ussualy play wizards and sorcerers or clerics or an occasional druid but I don't want to play yet another main caster. So I made a bard. I like bards.</p><p></p><p><strong>The stuff</strong></p><p>We use the CRB, APG, Ultimate Magic and Ultimate Combat (barring gunpowder stuff).</p><p>I want to play a Bard who can dish it out in melee and have some spells and abilities as support backup.</p><p>First lvl I get to play is lvl 3.</p><p>I want to use the <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/words-of-power" target="_blank">Words of Power</a> system. Looks decent, not very strong, but thats ok.</p><p>20 pts buy stats.</p><p></p><p><strong>The build</strong></p><p>only did to lvl 11 cause it might take a while:</p><p></p><p>Human <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard" target="_blank">bard</a> 7 (<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo---bard-archetypes/arcane-duelist" target="_blank">arcane dualist</a>)/<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/dragon-disciple" target="_blank">dragon disciple</a> 4</p><p><em>starting stats</em>: str 17 dex 12 con 14 int 12 wis 9 cha 14.</p><p><em>feats</em>: 1 <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/arcane-strike-combat" target="_blank">arcane strike</a>(b), <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/words-of-power#WordCaster-Feats" target="_blank">meta word mastery</a>(b), <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/lingering-performance" target="_blank">lingering performance</a>. 2 <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/combat-casting---final" target="_blank">combat casting</a>(b). 3 <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/enforcer-combat" target="_blank">enforcer</a>. 5 <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/skill-focus---final" target="_blank">skill focus</a> (knowledge [the planes]). 6 <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/disruptive-combat---final" target="_blank">disruptive</a>(b). 7 <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/eldritch-heritage" target="_blank">eldritch heritage</a> (<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/abyssal-bloodline" target="_blank">abyssal </a>[claws]). 9 <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/power-attack-combat---final" target="_blank">power attack</a>(b), <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/expanded-arcana" target="_blank">expanded arcana</a> (<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/g/good-hope" target="_blank">good hope</a>). 11 <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/improved-eldritch-heritage" target="_blank">improved eldritch heritage</a> (<a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/abyssal-bloodline" target="_blank">abyssal </a>[Strength of the Abyss]).</p><p>Words of power magic system but using the <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/human" target="_blank">human alternative favored class</a> bonus to get some regular <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/spell-list-filters/bard-spell-list-filter" target="_blank">bard spells</a> on my list. </p><p>lvl ability score bonusses go into str, that together with the str bonusses from the dragon disciple, strength of the abyss and a <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/belt-of-giant-strength" target="_blank">belt of giant strength</a> should offset my crummy bab. </p><p>The natural armor bonusses from the dragon disciple and <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/draconic-bloodline" target="_blank">draconic bloodline</a> together with armor should keep a little safe.</p><p>Using the claws and bite attacks from the bloodlines as attacks at higher lvl with an <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/amulet-of-mighty-fists" target="_blank">amulet of mighty fists</a>: <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons#TOC-Merciful" target="_blank">mercifull </a>to fuel my <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/enforcer-combat" target="_blank">enforcer </a>feat (use a <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/sap" target="_blank">sap </a>at low lvl). </p><p>A <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/r-z/robes-of-arcane-heritage" target="_blank">robe of arcane heritage</a> to speed up the bonusses from the bloodlines.</p><p><a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard#TOC-Arcane-Bond-Ex-or-Sp-" target="_blank">Arcane bond</a> is a <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/gauntlet-spiked" target="_blank">spiked gauntlet</a> so it is always being wielded.</p><p>Move action bardic performance and good hope for a +4 bonus to attack and damage for the whole party (including me) and free action claws and bite growing, maybe swift action spell if usefull. Next turn, join the melee.</p><p></p><p><strong>The question</strong></p><p>Is this build actually somewhat viable (as in not completely a waste of character space in the party) and if not/so any tips?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shadyizok, post: 5899682, member: 81286"] [B]Intro[/B] Hiya, so I'm in a campaign where we switch DM duties after each adventure. Every adventure we start at the next lvl with regular wealth by lvl. I'm DMing right now but in a session or two I'll have to play a new character. Our party consists out of an oracle, a zenarcher monk, a paladin, a magus, a barbarian plus my character (one of these won't be in the adventure as the player is DMing). I ussualy play wizards and sorcerers or clerics or an occasional druid but I don't want to play yet another main caster. So I made a bard. I like bards. [B]The stuff[/B] We use the CRB, APG, Ultimate Magic and Ultimate Combat (barring gunpowder stuff). I want to play a Bard who can dish it out in melee and have some spells and abilities as support backup. First lvl I get to play is lvl 3. I want to use the [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/words-of-power"]Words of Power[/URL] system. Looks decent, not very strong, but thats ok. 20 pts buy stats. [B]The build[/B] only did to lvl 11 cause it might take a while: Human [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard"]bard[/URL] 7 ([URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/bard/archetypes/paizo---bard-archetypes/arcane-duelist"]arcane dualist[/URL])/[URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/prestige-classes/core-rulebook/dragon-disciple"]dragon disciple[/URL] 4 [I]starting stats[/I]: str 17 dex 12 con 14 int 12 wis 9 cha 14. [I]feats[/I]: 1 [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/arcane-strike-combat"]arcane strike[/URL](b), [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/words-of-power#WordCaster-Feats"]meta word mastery[/URL](b), [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/lingering-performance"]lingering performance[/URL]. 2 [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/combat-casting---final"]combat casting[/URL](b). 3 [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/enforcer-combat"]enforcer[/URL]. 5 [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/skill-focus---final"]skill focus[/URL] (knowledge [the planes]). 6 [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/disruptive-combat---final"]disruptive[/URL](b). 7 [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/eldritch-heritage"]eldritch heritage[/URL] ([URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/abyssal-bloodline"]abyssal [/URL][claws]). 9 [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/power-attack-combat---final"]power attack[/URL](b), [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/expanded-arcana"]expanded arcana[/URL] ([URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/all-spells/g/good-hope"]good hope[/URL]). 11 [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/general-feats/improved-eldritch-heritage"]improved eldritch heritage[/URL] ([URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/abyssal-bloodline"]abyssal [/URL][Strength of the Abyss]). Words of power magic system but using the [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/races/core-races/human"]human alternative favored class[/URL] bonus to get some regular [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic/spell-list-filters/bard-spell-list-filter"]bard spells[/URL] on my list. lvl ability score bonusses go into str, that together with the str bonusses from the dragon disciple, strength of the abyss and a [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/belt-of-giant-strength"]belt of giant strength[/URL] should offset my crummy bab. The natural armor bonusses from the dragon disciple and [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/sorcerer/bloodlines/bloodlines-from-paizo/draconic-bloodline"]draconic bloodline[/URL] together with armor should keep a little safe. Using the claws and bite attacks from the bloodlines as attacks at higher lvl with an [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/a-b/amulet-of-mighty-fists"]amulet of mighty fists[/URL]: [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/magic-weapons#TOC-Merciful"]mercifull [/URL]to fuel my [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/feats/combat-feats/enforcer-combat"]enforcer [/URL]feat (use a [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/sap"]sap [/URL]at low lvl). A [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/magic-items/wondrous-items/wondrous-items/r-z/robes-of-arcane-heritage"]robe of arcane heritage[/URL] to speed up the bonusses from the bloodlines. [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/classes/core-classes/wizard#TOC-Arcane-Bond-Ex-or-Sp-"]Arcane bond[/URL] is a [URL="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/weapon-descriptions/gauntlet-spiked"]spiked gauntlet[/URL] so it is always being wielded. Move action bardic performance and good hope for a +4 bonus to attack and damage for the whole party (including me) and free action claws and bite growing, maybe swift action spell if usefull. Next turn, join the melee. [B]The question[/B] Is this build actually somewhat viable (as in not completely a waste of character space in the party) and if not/so any tips? [/QUOTE]
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