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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8788765" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>Depends on if they are common or not.</p><p></p><p>The troll regeneration debate happens for a reason.</p><p></p><p>See the answer to orc.</p><p></p><p>Depends on the creature. How are you supposed to know that a Magmin is resistant to those things? A mace can crush rock, why would you assume that a rock creature would be harder to hurt than a rock?</p><p></p><p>Oozes have no functioning organs and are not immune to poison.</p><p></p><p>Yep. Why immune and not resistant?</p><p></p><p>Why is the shadow different from a wraith, which looks like it is also made out of living darkness?</p><p></p><p>No. Why would you be? I will repeat, "<strong>The PCs need to know</strong>, not just the players." and in your example above, they do.</p><p></p><p>Yes. Those are not demons. That's like saying that just because a frost giant is immune to cold, so is a storm giant. Hell, it's even worse than that since at least both of those are giants. Demons are not weak to silver by the way. Devils are. Assuming can get you in trouble when you are trying to assume things about different races.</p><p></p><p>This is also not about assuming. Using player <strong>KNOWLEDGE </strong>involves no assumption.</p><p></p><p>Sure. </p><p></p><p>This is objectively wrong, since I've played at many tables that are like that. In fact, I've played at no table that allows you to use player knowledge to get by resistances, immunities or exploit vulnerabilities without the PC knowing or having a very good in character reason for it.</p><p></p><p>I don't see why the DM would gimp a player on knowing those vulnerabilities, just because they aren't listed as a vulnerability in the sense that they take extra damage. A troll is vulnerable to acid and fire, because it stops his regeneration.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8788765, member: 23751"] Depends on if they are common or not. The troll regeneration debate happens for a reason. See the answer to orc. Depends on the creature. How are you supposed to know that a Magmin is resistant to those things? A mace can crush rock, why would you assume that a rock creature would be harder to hurt than a rock? Oozes have no functioning organs and are not immune to poison. Yep. Why immune and not resistant? Why is the shadow different from a wraith, which looks like it is also made out of living darkness? No. Why would you be? I will repeat, "[B]The PCs need to know[/B], not just the players." and in your example above, they do. Yes. Those are not demons. That's like saying that just because a frost giant is immune to cold, so is a storm giant. Hell, it's even worse than that since at least both of those are giants. Demons are not weak to silver by the way. Devils are. Assuming can get you in trouble when you are trying to assume things about different races. This is also not about assuming. Using player [B]KNOWLEDGE [/B]involves no assumption. Sure. This is objectively wrong, since I've played at many tables that are like that. In fact, I've played at no table that allows you to use player knowledge to get by resistances, immunities or exploit vulnerabilities without the PC knowing or having a very good in character reason for it. I don't see why the DM would gimp a player on knowing those vulnerabilities, just because they aren't listed as a vulnerability in the sense that they take extra damage. A troll is vulnerable to acid and fire, because it stops his regeneration. [/QUOTE]
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