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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8790682" data-attributes="member: 23751">Sure.&nbsp; I even noted that only one had them as non-arcane.No.&nbsp; They did not have access to every spell in 2e, because in 2e they had to go out and find spells.&nbsp; They did not for instance have access to every single 1st level spell the instant that the hit 2nd level.&nbsp; Not only were the 2e bard's first 1d4 spells completely random, but he didn't even gain a spell of choice when he gained a level.&nbsp; He had to find them all.&nbsp; Having such a hard time getting new spells to cast is the opposite of what the 5.5 playtest is doing.Right, spell access remains limited as it was in 2e.Only slightly in that they can't switch spells on the fly.&nbsp; But the bard can invent any spell in existence(of the type he has access to, which is half of the schools), even those he has never even heard about, each morning when he prepares his spells for the day.&nbsp; That's close enough to &quot;on a whim&quot; for me.&nbsp; Hell, the rules don't even state it has to be PHB or from an official list of arcane spells, so he could theoretically just create entirely new spells of those schools without doing any research.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8790682, member: 23751"] Sure. I even noted that only one had them as non-arcane. No. They did not have access to every spell in 2e, because in 2e they had to go out and find spells. They did not for instance have access to every single 1st level spell the instant that the hit 2nd level. Not only were the 2e bard's first 1d4 spells completely random, but he didn't even gain a spell of choice when he gained a level. He had to find them all. Having such a hard time getting new spells to cast is the opposite of what the 5.5 playtest is doing. Right, spell access remains limited as it was in 2e. Only slightly in that they can't switch spells on the fly. But the bard can invent any spell in existence(of the type he has access to, which is half of the schools), even those he has never even heard about, each morning when he prepares his spells for the day. That's close enough to "on a whim" for me. Hell, the rules don't even state it has to be PHB or from an official list of arcane spells, so he could theoretically just create entirely new spells of those schools without doing any research. [/QUOTE]

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