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<blockquote data-quote="doctorhook" data-source="post: 4326711" data-attributes="member: 58401"><p><strong>Tangential discussion about combat role hybridism</strong></p><p></p><p></p><p>I appreciate the response, Ruin Explorer.</p><p></p><p>I disagree that anyone in any party "must" play anything; combat roles don't provide the class concepts (ie: "what [players] want to play"), they simply inform effective contribution in combat.</p><p></p><p>I believe "hybrid" classes are a bad idea because, I believe, such classes invite imbalance. I believe that hybrid-class characters would either have to be fully contributory in both roles (eg: "I'm a good Leader and Striker simultaneously!") or subpar in each role (eg: "I'm an ineffective Leader and an ineffective Striker simultaneously...."); anything other than perfect balance between a hybrid class's multiple roles would make such a class more one role than another, and thus not truly a hybrid, right? This kind of quasi-hybridism already exists in 4E, both in single classes like the Paladin (a Defender with a bit of Leader) or the Warlock (a Striker with a bit of Controller), as well as in multiclass combinations of all types; in these cases, (particularly with multiclassing) the character can be effective in two roles simultaneously, and yet remains more one role than the other.</p><p></p><p>In short, I don't believe that hybrid roles are necessary in any form other than that in which they already exist in 4E, nor do I believe that it would be desirable to include any other form of role hybridism.</p><p></p><p>Feel free to rebut!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorhook, post: 4326711, member: 58401"] [b]Tangential discussion about combat role hybridism[/b] I appreciate the response, Ruin Explorer. I disagree that anyone in any party "must" play anything; combat roles don't provide the class concepts (ie: "what [players] want to play"), they simply inform effective contribution in combat. I believe "hybrid" classes are a bad idea because, I believe, such classes invite imbalance. I believe that hybrid-class characters would either have to be fully contributory in both roles (eg: "I'm a good Leader and Striker simultaneously!") or subpar in each role (eg: "I'm an ineffective Leader and an ineffective Striker simultaneously...."); anything other than perfect balance between a hybrid class's multiple roles would make such a class more one role than another, and thus not truly a hybrid, right? This kind of quasi-hybridism already exists in 4E, both in single classes like the Paladin (a Defender with a bit of Leader) or the Warlock (a Striker with a bit of Controller), as well as in multiclass combinations of all types; in these cases, (particularly with multiclassing) the character can be effective in two roles simultaneously, and yet remains more one role than the other. In short, I don't believe that hybrid roles are necessary in any form other than that in which they already exist in 4E, nor do I believe that it would be desirable to include any other form of role hybridism. Feel free to rebut! [/QUOTE]
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