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<blockquote data-quote="The Souljourner" data-source="post: 1124506" data-attributes="member: 1622"><p>So, I guess charm monster is not terrible useful, since you can't (-5 to DC) do it in combat, and how often are monsters going to be in non-combat situations? Not that often. So I think that's going to drop for blink. It's a lot more random than displacement and a lot more fun... plus you can use it to walk through walls and stuff.</p><p></p><p>Also, as much as I like the idea of detect thoughts, my bard should be able to convince anyone to simply spill their guts via force of personality, so let's drop that for mirror image.</p><p></p><p>The problem I have with crushing despair is this - it's an area. Not only that, it's a cone, which is one of the crappiest area effects possible. It'll be very difficult to only hit the enemies and not my allies, unless I'm very careful or get to go first.</p><p></p><p>Slow, on the other hand, lets you pick targets, so regardless of the position of your allies, it'll always only hit enemies. Haste is great, I'll grant you, but it doesn't help casters at all, and +1 attack for the good guys at 9th level is generally not as good as -1 or -2 attacks for the bad guys.</p><p></p><p>BTW, I'm being human with the following feats: Spell Focus: Enchantment, Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment, Disguise Spell (Song & Silence), and two others yet to be determined. I was kinda hoping not to be an archer, since my character that just died was an elven archer. Thus, depending on my stat configuration, I'll probably end up with weapon finesse.</p><p></p><p>Stats I rolled, btw: 16, 16, 15, 13, 11, 10 (very good, I know)</p><p></p><p>0th:</p><p>Ghost Sound</p><p>Light</p><p>Lullaby</p><p>Prestidigitation</p><p>Read Magic</p><p>Summon Instrument</p><p></p><p>1st:</p><p>Charm Person</p><p>Nystul's Magic Aura</p><p>Tasha's Hideous Laughter</p><p>Silent Image</p><p></p><p>2nd:</p><p>Alter Self</p><p>Hold Person</p><p>Mirror Image</p><p>Summon Swarm</p><p></p><p>3rd:</p><p>Blink</p><p>Glibness</p><p>Slow</p><p></p><p>-The Souljourner</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Souljourner, post: 1124506, member: 1622"] So, I guess charm monster is not terrible useful, since you can't (-5 to DC) do it in combat, and how often are monsters going to be in non-combat situations? Not that often. So I think that's going to drop for blink. It's a lot more random than displacement and a lot more fun... plus you can use it to walk through walls and stuff. Also, as much as I like the idea of detect thoughts, my bard should be able to convince anyone to simply spill their guts via force of personality, so let's drop that for mirror image. The problem I have with crushing despair is this - it's an area. Not only that, it's a cone, which is one of the crappiest area effects possible. It'll be very difficult to only hit the enemies and not my allies, unless I'm very careful or get to go first. Slow, on the other hand, lets you pick targets, so regardless of the position of your allies, it'll always only hit enemies. Haste is great, I'll grant you, but it doesn't help casters at all, and +1 attack for the good guys at 9th level is generally not as good as -1 or -2 attacks for the bad guys. BTW, I'm being human with the following feats: Spell Focus: Enchantment, Greater Spell Focus: Enchantment, Disguise Spell (Song & Silence), and two others yet to be determined. I was kinda hoping not to be an archer, since my character that just died was an elven archer. Thus, depending on my stat configuration, I'll probably end up with weapon finesse. Stats I rolled, btw: 16, 16, 15, 13, 11, 10 (very good, I know) 0th: Ghost Sound Light Lullaby Prestidigitation Read Magic Summon Instrument 1st: Charm Person Nystul's Magic Aura Tasha's Hideous Laughter Silent Image 2nd: Alter Self Hold Person Mirror Image Summon Swarm 3rd: Blink Glibness Slow -The Souljourner [/QUOTE]
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