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<blockquote data-quote="T'ahl" data-source="post: 1623048" data-attributes="member: 17472">Ya - like your ideas memnusActually I like what you've done with him very much!I do agree he was too powerfull before - but you've toned him down quite a bit and I think compared to a Barbarian or Bard he's not far off now.Although he still has quite a few bonus feats yes - he does not have the hit dice of the Barbarian - nor the rage ability or trap sense.If you only give him 4+ skill points per level - he's well below the bard and far below the rogue.Cutting him back to 1/3 bard spell progression definately takes a toll - if you add that up - that's worth a lot of feats??and finally loss of any Bardic music abilities - I think finishes him off at reasonably powerfull??Your right - about the glowing swords thing (just watched an ancient really bad kung fu movie called &quot;the last dragon&quot; last week lol - blame it on that)Maybe just drop it all together and give him something else that level (every character seems to get something each level - doesn't matter what it is - he can gain the ability to polish any blade so well it increases it's value by 25% LOL)Lastly - If you wanted to drop him just a little more - we could make either the rapid shot or the blind fighting a required feat choice - instead of a bonus at third level (and swap them as needed)But I like all your suggestions MEM - I've never created a class before - so yeah - I was trying to create half a jedi - not a blade LOL - I tend to get a little carried away at times <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :-)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" />thanks for the input - input more if it comes to ya</blockquote>

[QUOTE="T'ahl, post: 1623048, member: 17472"] [b]Ya - like your ideas memnus[/b] Actually I like what you've done with him very much! I do agree he was too powerfull before - but you've toned him down quite a bit and I think compared to a Barbarian or Bard he's not far off now. Although he still has quite a few bonus feats yes - he does not have the hit dice of the Barbarian - nor the rage ability or trap sense. If you only give him 4+ skill points per level - he's well below the bard and far below the rogue. Cutting him back to 1/3 bard spell progression definately takes a toll - if you add that up - that's worth a lot of feats?? and finally loss of any Bardic music abilities - I think finishes him off at reasonably powerfull?? Your right - about the glowing swords thing (just watched an ancient really bad kung fu movie called "the last dragon" last week lol - blame it on that) Maybe just drop it all together and give him something else that level (every character seems to get something each level - doesn't matter what it is - he can gain the ability to polish any blade so well it increases it's value by 25% LOL) Lastly - If you wanted to drop him just a little more - we could make either the rapid shot or the blind fighting a required feat choice - instead of a bonus at third level (and swap them as needed) But I like all your suggestions MEM - I've never created a class before - so yeah - I was trying to create half a jedi - not a blade LOL - I tend to get a little carried away at times :-) thanks for the input - input more if it comes to ya [/QUOTE]

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