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<blockquote data-quote="Fieari" data-source="post: 3043659" data-attributes="member: 16221">My <a href="http://d20npcs.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Phoenix" target="_blank">Divine Phoenix</a> gets a +51 to Bardic Knowledge checks.&nbsp; Here are the DCs for Bardic Knowledge:10 - Common, known by at least a substantial minority drinking; common legends of the local population.20 - Uncommon but available, known by only a few people legends.25 - Obscure, known by few, hard to come by.30 - Extremely obscure, known by very few, possibly forgotten by most who once knew it, possibly known only by those who don’t understand the significance of the knowledge.She can't fail even the highest DC here.&nbsp; That's boring.Fortunately, I'm thinking about how the Immortal's Handbook provides a WEALTH of new obscure things to know about.&nbsp; But the question is, where to set the DC?For example, what's the DC to know about a legend that doesn't exist on your world, but in another world instead?&nbsp; For example, an earthing knowing martian legends?&nbsp; Or even more, how about for legends on a different plane?Even on the same world how about legends forgotten a million years ago with no trace left over?Legends about elder gods, sleeping for millenia?How about Time Lords?What would the DC to learn something about the Supreme Being?In the case of circular histories, what about the DC to remember a legend about something that happens in the future, but then the big crunch or whatever happens, the universe ends, the universe is reborn, and everything repeats?When it comes to dealing with those abilities that can remove people from history, or when dealing with Nexus Dragons or whatnot, how about a DC to remember these things &lt;i&gt;anyway&lt;/i&gt;?Suggestions?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Fieari, post: 3043659, member: 16221"] My [url=http://d20npcs.wikia.com/wiki/Divine_Phoenix]Divine Phoenix[/url] gets a +51 to Bardic Knowledge checks. Here are the DCs for Bardic Knowledge: 10 - Common, known by at least a substantial minority drinking; common legends of the local population. 20 - Uncommon but available, known by only a few people legends. 25 - Obscure, known by few, hard to come by. 30 - Extremely obscure, known by very few, possibly forgotten by most who once knew it, possibly known only by those who don’t understand the significance of the knowledge. She [i]can't[/i] fail even the highest DC here. That's boring. Fortunately, I'm thinking about how the Immortal's Handbook provides a WEALTH of new obscure things to know about. But the question is, where to set the DC? For example, what's the DC to know about a legend that doesn't exist on your world, but in another world instead? For example, an earthing knowing martian legends? Or even more, how about for legends on a different plane? Even on the same world how about legends forgotten a million years ago with no trace left over? Legends about elder gods, sleeping for millenia? How about Time Lords? What would the DC to learn something about the Supreme Being? In the case of circular histories, what about the DC to remember a legend about something that happens in the future, but then the big crunch or whatever happens, the universe ends, the universe is reborn, and everything repeats? When it comes to dealing with those abilities that can remove people from history, or when dealing with Nexus Dragons or whatnot, how about a DC to remember these things anyway? Suggestions? [/QUOTE]

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