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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EarthSeraphEdna" data-source="post: 3820845" data-attributes="member: 49309">Let's see, that gives us the following Bardic Knowledge DCs:DC 25 == Common epic/mortal knowledge.DC 40 == Common divine/immortal knowledge.DC 50 == Uncommon epic/mortal knowledge.DC 62 == Obscure epic/mortal knowledge.DC 70 == Common cosmic/sidereal knowledge.DC 75 == Extremely obscure epic/mortal knowledge.DC 80 == Uncommon divine/immortal knowledge.DC 100 = Obscure divine/immortal knowledge.DC 120 = Extremely obscure divine/immortal knowledge.DC 130 = Common transcendental/eternal knowledge.DC 140 = Uncommon cosmic/sidereal knowledge.DC 175 = Obscure cosmic/sidereal knowledge.DC 210 = Extremely obscure cosmic/sidereal knowledge.DC 250 = Common omnific/supernal knowledge.DC 260 = Uncommon transcendental/eternal knowledge.DC 325 = Obscure transcendental/eternal knowledge.DC 390 = Extremely obscure transcendental/eternal knowledge.DC 500 = Uncommon omnific/supernal knowledge.DC 625 = Obscure omnific/supernal knowledge.DC 750 = Extremely obscure omnific/supernal knowledge.At first I thought, "Wow, it takes a DC 40 check to know that a deity exists." However, I then realized that a DC 40 check would get you information that is common knowledge FOR deities. So, there needs to be a multiplier for the DC for simply knowing that a particular entity exists.Going by the Draconomicon's Draconic Knowledge feat (which is basically just Bardic Knowledge for dragons), it takes a DC 10 knowledge check to know about the existence of a particular deity. This presumably includes the deity's name and an extremely brief rundown of what he's all about. Therefore, the knowledge check DC multiplier for knowing that an entity exists should be x0.25, giving us the following knowledge DCs:DC 6 == Knowledge of the existence of a particular epic being, including his name and a brief summary.DC 10 = Knowledge of the existence of a particular divine being, including his name and a brief summary.DC 17 = Knowledge of the existence of a particular cosmic/sidereal being, including his name and a brief summary.DC 32 = Knowledge of the existence of a particular transcendental/eternal being, including his name and a brief summary.DC 62 = Knowledge of the existence of a particular omnific/eternal being, including his name and a brief summary.So knowing that Surtur is an elder one incarcerated in the para-elemental plane of magma would be DC 17, knowing that Metatron is the first one of Briah that happens to be an angel and an aspect of GOD is DC 32, and knowing that there's a supreme being (GOD) up in the Akashic Library with all of the lipika is DC 62. Does that sound good enough?</blockquote>

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