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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Whimsical" data-source="post: 2543045" data-attributes="member: 3976">I think that sneak attack compares more directly with bardic spellcasting than bardic knowledge.Personally, I believe that bardic knowledge does have a lot of overlap with certain knowledge skills, I have found that the Bardic Knowledge class ability to be an artifact from previous editions of AD&D that doesn't mesh well with the 3e skills rules. After all, most bits of info that can revealed with bardic knowledge could logically also be brought up with the appropriate Knowledge skill. Most likely K:Local, K:History, or K:Royalty.I have as a house rule that the Bardic Knowledge class ability instead grants you the following beneficts at certain class levels. Any of the listed abilities that augments Knowledge skill checks also work on any skill check that is being used as a knowledge check, such as using Heal for diagnosis or forensics. <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">1st: +2 skill points/level (or +2x4 if your first level is bard) that can only be used on Knowledge skills, and you can use any knowledge skill untrained for any DC, not just DC 10 and lower.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">5th: you add +2 to any Knowledge check.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">7th: you can take a full round action to reroll a knowledge check (but no rerolls on rerolls)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">11th: you can make the reroll granted at 7th level as a free action.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">13th: you can use a bardic music effect to recall perfectly a moment of your past as a full round action as if you had affected yourself with the memory recall aspect of <a href="http://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/modifyMemory.htm" target="_blank">modify memory</a>.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">17th: you can use a bardic music effect to grant yourself an insight bonus to a knowledge check equal to your charisma bonus as part of the knowledge check action.</li> </ul>The last two are supernatural effects that use up a daily use of bardic music, and has the same limitations where you need to be able to hear yourself sing, recite, or perform music and it doesn't work if you are immune to mind influencing effects.</blockquote>

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