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<blockquote data-quote="Arravis" data-source="post: 2543460" data-attributes="member: 327">Synthetik Fish: Comparing one class ability to another doesn't help. They all vary in power and usefulness. Any direct comparison between abilities breaks down rather quickly.kanithardm: The rules cleary state&nbsp; what Bardic Knowledge covers and it isn't everything.pawned79: There is nothing in the Bardic Knowledge ability that would give you any meta-rule information. That power is strictly limited to Knowledge skills as stated in the PHB.Whimsical: I agree 100% that Bardic Knowledge is a poorly implemented ability brought over from earlier editions. It should be some sort of bonus, modifier, etc to existing Knowledge skills. It would elegantly solve all the problems it has. I like your system except for the reliance on the &quot;bard&quot; part of Bardic Knowledge. As listed in my previous post, there are many non-bard based classes grant the Bardic Knowledge ability.I think an alternate system would be great, but I guess that's for the house rules forum, not here. Anyone know of an existing alternate that isn't bard-based?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arravis, post: 2543460, member: 327"] [B]Synthetik Fish:[/B] Comparing one class ability to another doesn't help. They all vary in power and usefulness. Any direct comparison between abilities breaks down rather quickly. [B]kanithardm:[/B] The rules cleary state what Bardic Knowledge covers and it isn't everything. [B]pawned79:[/B] There is nothing in the Bardic Knowledge ability that would give you any meta-rule information. That power is strictly limited to Knowledge skills as stated in the PHB. [B]Whimsical:[/B] I agree 100% that Bardic Knowledge is a poorly implemented ability brought over from earlier editions. It should be some sort of bonus, modifier, etc to existing Knowledge skills. It would elegantly solve all the problems it has. I like your system except for the reliance on the "bard" part of Bardic Knowledge. As listed in my previous post, there are many non-bard based classes grant the Bardic Knowledge ability. I think an alternate system would be great, but I guess that's for the house rules forum, not here. Anyone know of an existing alternate that isn't bard-based? [/QUOTE]

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