Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Character Builds & Optimization
Bardic Lore: A Basic College of Lore Bard Guide
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="DocSharpe" data-source="post: 6703886" data-attributes="member: 6677186"><p>So I like this guide. A lot. I certainly agree with your opening line that bards have a poor reputation as a class, but this has been one of the more enjoyable characters I've played. After playing a bard in AL up through lvl 9, I don't see a lot that I would disagree with. (I gravitate towards slightly different spells, but that may just be my playstyle). One thing to call out in Additional Magical Secrets is that the spells don't count against your total spells known, (spells from the main Magical Secrets feature do count)...it's something which some players have missed.</p><p></p><p>I would add one thought as far as feats go... Inspiring Leader is IMO a stronger feat for a Cha-based character than Healer. For a couple reasons, first, it's THP, which means you're pre-healing your party, as opposed to needing to spend an action during combat. Second, it's for six people, not just one, which is usually the entire party. At 9th level, my lore bard gives out 14 THP to most of the party...which for most characters is effectively an extra level or two of HP.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I would love to pick people's brains about what to do after 10th. As noted, I'm at 9th level, and will hit 10th very shortly. It feels like after 10th, there are diminishing returns on the abilities you get at higher levels. Improving Song of Rest to d10s and d12s, and BI dice to d12s barely register as improvements (beyond "yay, I get to use d12s for something"). Peerless skill is neat, especially as an initiative bump, but not worth investing another 4 levels in the class. Yeah, there are 6th level and higher spells...but I feel like I should be looking in another cart for tricks. Wondering if I'm missing the obvious here.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DocSharpe, post: 6703886, member: 6677186"] So I like this guide. A lot. I certainly agree with your opening line that bards have a poor reputation as a class, but this has been one of the more enjoyable characters I've played. After playing a bard in AL up through lvl 9, I don't see a lot that I would disagree with. (I gravitate towards slightly different spells, but that may just be my playstyle). One thing to call out in Additional Magical Secrets is that the spells don't count against your total spells known, (spells from the main Magical Secrets feature do count)...it's something which some players have missed. I would add one thought as far as feats go... Inspiring Leader is IMO a stronger feat for a Cha-based character than Healer. For a couple reasons, first, it's THP, which means you're pre-healing your party, as opposed to needing to spend an action during combat. Second, it's for six people, not just one, which is usually the entire party. At 9th level, my lore bard gives out 14 THP to most of the party...which for most characters is effectively an extra level or two of HP. I would love to pick people's brains about what to do after 10th. As noted, I'm at 9th level, and will hit 10th very shortly. It feels like after 10th, there are diminishing returns on the abilities you get at higher levels. Improving Song of Rest to d10s and d12s, and BI dice to d12s barely register as improvements (beyond "yay, I get to use d12s for something"). Peerless skill is neat, especially as an initiative bump, but not worth investing another 4 levels in the class. Yeah, there are 6th level and higher spells...but I feel like I should be looking in another cart for tricks. Wondering if I'm missing the obvious here. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
Character Builds & Optimization
Bardic Lore: A Basic College of Lore Bard Guide
Top