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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Silver Griffon" data-source="post: 644278" data-attributes="member: 9425">I have to agree with WizarDru. Based on the material he quotes and my own reading, I must go with #1. Standard action to start, but can perform other tasks while continuing (with the listed exceptions of course). As far as clearing up things in 3.5 goes, hopefully they will take the approach of d20 Modern and list all actions as either attack actions or move actions, and also drop the usage of the terms "partial action" and "standard action" as they seem to create some confusion.Slightly OT: Coreyartus describes the bard as a "jack of all trades" which most of us, myself included, expect to be true. But the more I think about it the more I am convinced that this is a hold-over from 2e. The Rogue is now the jack of all trades and the bard is now highly specialized as a performer. Think about it. There is no longer a specialized "thief" class. The rogue can be any kind of character playing by his own rules. They are able to fill the roles of scout, fighter, investigator, even spellcaster (Use Magic Device). The bard entertains and influences people. The only thing that really screams "jack of all trades" about the bard is his eclectic spell list. The rogue has taken over that niche in 3e. It does bother me that barbarians have as many skill points as bards. I know in this system that those points are also used for climbing, swimming, survival, etc. But it still doesn't feel right. However, it must be pointed out that the bard does already get enough points to max out 3 +Int mod skills in addition to Perform at first level. Not too shabby if you buy my argument that the rogue has supplanted them in the jack of all trades department. If only they would clear up this whole Bardic Knowledge thing we would know how many of those skill points to put into Knowledge skills...<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f644.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":rolleyes:" title="Roll eyes    :rolleyes:"  data-smilie="11"data-shortname=":rolleyes:" /></blockquote>

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