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Bards: do they even use feats?
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<blockquote data-quote="Guilt Puppy" data-source="post: 826631" data-attributes="member: 6521"><p>Spell Focus and Weapon Finesse seem the best-suited so far... Others:</p><p></p><p>Dodge? Mobility? Both useful feats in their own right... And they lead into Spring Attack, which is very nice for a Bard with Boots of Striding and Springing. Of course, this requires a Dex of 13+, but if you're thinking about Finessing I assume you have that.</p><p></p><p>While you're at it, might as well throw in Expertise if you meet the Int... If you <em>do</em> end up in melee, it can be an excellent survival tool (which doesn't force you to cower in Full Defense <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> ) Heck, if you do all this, Whirlwind Attack becomes a possibility. Throw in Quick Draw, and you can give a nasty surprise to enemies that surround you, thinking you to be nothing more than petty minstrel...</p><p></p><p>And to avoid being another petty minstrel? Toughness is not a terrible choice for surviving lower levels... For that matter, the saving throw feats are also of universal appeal (either to min-max, or to bolster your weaknesses.) At higher level, Spell Penetration becomes a necessity... And then there are always the metamagic feats.</p><p></p><p>Oh, and it costs two feats, but let me tell you I've gotten a surprising amount of mileage out of getting Deflect Arrows for a Sorceror I've been running... Would have similar benefits for a Bard -- no, better, because of their Reflex saves. Synergizes well with Lightning Reflexes, for that matter <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Improved Unarmed Strike (the prereq) still isn't a terrible thing for a Bard to have, although Quick Draw is generally a better substitute... Still, it's something to consider.</p><p></p><p>"But Guilty," I hear you saying, "that's too many feats! Even at twentieth level, I'll only have eight, and you've listed more than that!" From that you might infer: There are plenty of good feats for Bards to choose from. Their use just isn't as obvious as it is for other classes...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Guilt Puppy, post: 826631, member: 6521"] Spell Focus and Weapon Finesse seem the best-suited so far... Others: Dodge? Mobility? Both useful feats in their own right... And they lead into Spring Attack, which is very nice for a Bard with Boots of Striding and Springing. Of course, this requires a Dex of 13+, but if you're thinking about Finessing I assume you have that. While you're at it, might as well throw in Expertise if you meet the Int... If you [i]do[/i] end up in melee, it can be an excellent survival tool (which doesn't force you to cower in Full Defense :) ) Heck, if you do all this, Whirlwind Attack becomes a possibility. Throw in Quick Draw, and you can give a nasty surprise to enemies that surround you, thinking you to be nothing more than petty minstrel... And to avoid being another petty minstrel? Toughness is not a terrible choice for surviving lower levels... For that matter, the saving throw feats are also of universal appeal (either to min-max, or to bolster your weaknesses.) At higher level, Spell Penetration becomes a necessity... And then there are always the metamagic feats. Oh, and it costs two feats, but let me tell you I've gotten a surprising amount of mileage out of getting Deflect Arrows for a Sorceror I've been running... Would have similar benefits for a Bard -- no, better, because of their Reflex saves. Synergizes well with Lightning Reflexes, for that matter :) Improved Unarmed Strike (the prereq) still isn't a terrible thing for a Bard to have, although Quick Draw is generally a better substitute... Still, it's something to consider. "But Guilty," I hear you saying, "that's too many feats! Even at twentieth level, I'll only have eight, and you've listed more than that!" From that you might infer: There are plenty of good feats for Bards to choose from. Their use just isn't as obvious as it is for other classes... [/QUOTE]
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