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<blockquote data-quote="Old Fezziwig" data-source="post: 826762" data-attributes="member: 59">Hi, toberane. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp; I realized after I posted it that my post didn't really have any citation or support for my statement, so it looks kind of silly, but it's hard to cite things that aren't there.&nbsp; Wasn't really aiming for the tone my post achieved.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />If you don't want to take my word for it, I can point you to the sections on spells for the three classes, though (Bard, PHB 27; Paladin, PHB 42-3; Ranger, PHB 45).&nbsp; The paladin and ranger are pretty specific about their caster levels (very last sentence).&nbsp; I can understand the rogue/bard split there.&nbsp; The bard is a great class, IMO, but it does need a little tweaking (the 6+Int skill pts./level in 3.5e is a good place to start, AFAIC).&nbsp; If I weren't so fond of this character (and his spells), I'd consider starting to multiclass him in rogue.Best,tKL</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Old Fezziwig, post: 826762, member: 59"] Hi, toberane. :) I realized after I posted it that my post didn't really have any citation or support for my statement, so it looks kind of silly, but it's hard to cite things that aren't there. Wasn't really aiming for the tone my post achieved. :p If you don't want to take my word for it, I can point you to the sections on spells for the three classes, though (Bard, PHB 27; Paladin, PHB 42-3; Ranger, PHB 45). The paladin and ranger are pretty specific about their caster levels (very last sentence). I can understand the rogue/bard split there. The bard is a great class, IMO, but it does need a little tweaking (the 6+Int skill pts./level in 3.5e is a good place to start, AFAIC). If I weren't so fond of this character (and his spells), I'd consider starting to multiclass him in rogue. Best, tKL [/QUOTE]

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