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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8072479" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>None of those things except maybe a Skald is a Bard. They're jobs. That's like saying Wizards aren't great for sages, scriveners, researchers, librarians and so on. Yeah, because those are jobs, not classes. Same could be said for clerics and various religion-adjacent jobs or religious leaders who don't traditionally possess UNTOLD MAGICAL POWWWWEEEERRRRSSSSS (booming voice - Thaumaturgy, natch).</p><p></p><p>So that's an utterly nonsensical objection, and that the OP is giving it the thumbs up shows you guys are the source of the problem here, not the Bard class. If you want to be a gigolo, i.e. a male escort, you can do that as whatever class you like. Indeed, I daresay Bard has never been an ideal class for that. You don't want huge charisma in a gigolo - you want good looks, etiquette, attentiveness, compliance, and possibly athleticism. People should be listening to and staring at you, not hanging on every word of your hired escort. If you want to be a jester, work on your stand-up and get a stupid outfit. That's not a class. A travelling musician is not a class either - indeed, if they aren't gathering lore and so on, such a character actively could NOT be a Bard in any edition.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8072479, member: 18"] None of those things except maybe a Skald is a Bard. They're jobs. That's like saying Wizards aren't great for sages, scriveners, researchers, librarians and so on. Yeah, because those are jobs, not classes. Same could be said for clerics and various religion-adjacent jobs or religious leaders who don't traditionally possess UNTOLD MAGICAL POWWWWEEEERRRRSSSSS (booming voice - Thaumaturgy, natch). So that's an utterly nonsensical objection, and that the OP is giving it the thumbs up shows you guys are the source of the problem here, not the Bard class. If you want to be a gigolo, i.e. a male escort, you can do that as whatever class you like. Indeed, I daresay Bard has never been an ideal class for that. You don't want huge charisma in a gigolo - you want good looks, etiquette, attentiveness, compliance, and possibly athleticism. People should be listening to and staring at you, not hanging on every word of your hired escort. If you want to be a jester, work on your stand-up and get a stupid outfit. That's not a class. A travelling musician is not a class either - indeed, if they aren't gathering lore and so on, such a character actively could NOT be a Bard in any edition. [/QUOTE]
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