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<blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 2276911" data-attributes="member: 9002">I think your DM is totally off base.Assuming your bard had &quot;diplomacy&quot; (as a skill) at the VERY least he should have allowed a diplomacy check.&nbsp; If this was reasonably sucessful, stopping the mob from killing the PC immediately, the bard could have targeted a few members of the rabble and won them over to his cause via suggestions or fascinate -- or even sung a song to the entire crowd about an innocent accused wrongly of a crime who, however, managed to get off in the end (a famous song or myth).Honestly, dealing with a mass of humanity is what bards do well, even without any magic involved at all.&nbsp; I have absolutely no idea why some DM's are like this.&nbsp; They are happy to allow a sorcerer to blast a black bear to bits with a spell, but unwilling to allow a charismatic and attractive orator to effect a crowd.&nbsp; I mean, people in the REAL would could stop a mob dead in its tracks.&nbsp; Don't beleive me?&nbsp; Throw Angelina Jolie in front of a mob and see what happens.&nbsp; Before two minutes is gone, she'll be giving peaceful admirers autographs while the PC in danger (entirely forgotten about) slips away.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="two, post: 2276911, member: 9002"] I think your DM is totally off base. Assuming your bard had "diplomacy" (as a skill) at the VERY least he should have allowed a diplomacy check. If this was reasonably sucessful, stopping the mob from killing the PC immediately, the bard could have targeted a few members of the rabble and won them over to his cause via suggestions or fascinate -- or even sung a song to the entire crowd about an innocent accused wrongly of a crime who, however, managed to get off in the end (a famous song or myth). Honestly, dealing with a mass of humanity is what bards do well, even without any magic involved at all. I have absolutely no idea why some DM's are like this. They are happy to allow a sorcerer to blast a black bear to bits with a spell, but unwilling to allow a charismatic and attractive orator to effect a crowd. I mean, people in the REAL would could stop a mob dead in its tracks. Don't beleive me? Throw Angelina Jolie in front of a mob and see what happens. Before two minutes is gone, she'll be giving peaceful admirers autographs while the PC in danger (entirely forgotten about) slips away. [/QUOTE]

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