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<blockquote data-quote="Mad Mac" data-source="post: 2896497" data-attributes="member: 27873">I dunno. 2nd edition Bards were very potent, but mostly just as a Wizard shortcut. Why be the d4 hp, no weapons, no armor, no special abilities gimp with the 2500 base xp progression, when you can level up faster as a Bard (Thus technically outwizarding the Wizzie) with some extra beanies on the side?&nbsp; On the other hand, I didn't think the 2nd edition bard had much else going for him. He was tougher than the Mage, but theif attack progression was still pretty awful, Bardic Music was almost useless, and I don't remember the skills being all that either. The Bard had what? Climb Walls, Listen...and like 2 other skills. I always thought him being an expert climber with no other infiltration skills was kinda funny.&nbsp; Fighter/Bard was a really good combo though. Heck, Fighter/Anything in 2nd edition was never a bad way to go, unless you could be Ranger/Something instead.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mad Mac, post: 2896497, member: 27873"] I dunno. 2nd edition Bards were very potent, but mostly just as a Wizard shortcut. Why be the d4 hp, no weapons, no armor, no special abilities gimp with the 2500 base xp progression, when you can level up faster as a Bard (Thus technically outwizarding the Wizzie) with some extra beanies on the side? On the other hand, I didn't think the 2nd edition bard had much else going for him. He was tougher than the Mage, but theif attack progression was still pretty awful, Bardic Music was almost useless, and I don't remember the skills being all that either. The Bard had what? Climb Walls, Listen...and like 2 other skills. I always thought him being an expert climber with no other infiltration skills was kinda funny. Fighter/Bard was a really good combo though. Heck, Fighter/Anything in 2nd edition was never a bad way to go, unless you could be Ranger/Something instead. [/QUOTE]

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