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<blockquote data-quote="muppetmuppet" data-source="post: 6750552" data-attributes="member: 6800767">Just checking I understand the rules for bards and musical instruments.&nbsp; At level one a bard has proficiency in 3 instruments from the class.They can use an instrument as a spell casting focus but as far as I can see they don't have to be proficient in that instrument to do so.They add their proficiency to the spell DC, but it is not clear if it matters if they are proficient in the instrument they are using to do so.All this is only of interest as the bard in question has currently been stripped of all items and it is possible they may try to make or improvise a musical instrument to enable spell casting of spells needing components they don't possess.Talking of which if a bard with no other skill were to try to make an improvised instrument say a flute would you impose a penalty to their spell DC or some other course till they can obtain a properly made one?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="muppetmuppet, post: 6750552, member: 6800767"] Just checking I understand the rules for bards and musical instruments. At level one a bard has proficiency in 3 instruments from the class. They can use an instrument as a spell casting focus but as far as I can see they don't have to be proficient in that instrument to do so. They add their proficiency to the spell DC, but it is not clear if it matters if they are proficient in the instrument they are using to do so. All this is only of interest as the bard in question has currently been stripped of all items and it is possible they may try to make or improvise a musical instrument to enable spell casting of spells needing components they don't possess. Talking of which if a bard with no other skill were to try to make an improvised instrument say a flute would you impose a penalty to their spell DC or some other course till they can obtain a properly made one? [/QUOTE]

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