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Bards Should Be Half-Casters in 5.5e/6e
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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8391279" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>No offense, but I've seen people claim that Merlin is everything from a Wizard, to an infernal Sorcerer/Cambion, Warlock, Druid, and Bard.</p><p></p><p>I've heard all of those and the arguments for them, but I still don't "get it"/agree with that claim. I think that Merlin is a character from a fairy tale/legend that was not told predicting everything that Bards could do in a non-existent game called Dungeons and Dragons. I also don't think that Merlin is the prime/only inspiration for the Bard class (that is, if he was even part of the inspiration for the Bard class, which I have yet to have seen), and even if he was, that doesn't mean that Bards can't be used differently in D&D.</p><p></p><p>Big disagree. Paladins aren't historically accurate paladins (thank goodness), Warlocks aren't historically accurate Warlocks/Witches, Clerics aren't historically accurate clergy, Berserkers/Barbarians aren't historically accurate Berserkers, and Alchemists aren't historically accurate Alchemists (okay, this one, I could get behind. Alchemists would be way better and much cooler if they were related to discovering the 5th element "Aether", the Philosopher's Stone, and stuff like that).</p><p></p><p>The name "Music Mage" would certainly fit in with the names "Fighting Man" and "Magic-User", but that name wouldn't/doesn't fly in 5e ("Fighter" is still a semi-contentious name, as it's so bland. IMHO, "Warrior" or something similar would be way better). Bard works.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8391279, member: 7023887"] No offense, but I've seen people claim that Merlin is everything from a Wizard, to an infernal Sorcerer/Cambion, Warlock, Druid, and Bard. I've heard all of those and the arguments for them, but I still don't "get it"/agree with that claim. I think that Merlin is a character from a fairy tale/legend that was not told predicting everything that Bards could do in a non-existent game called Dungeons and Dragons. I also don't think that Merlin is the prime/only inspiration for the Bard class (that is, if he was even part of the inspiration for the Bard class, which I have yet to have seen), and even if he was, that doesn't mean that Bards can't be used differently in D&D. Big disagree. Paladins aren't historically accurate paladins (thank goodness), Warlocks aren't historically accurate Warlocks/Witches, Clerics aren't historically accurate clergy, Berserkers/Barbarians aren't historically accurate Berserkers, and Alchemists aren't historically accurate Alchemists (okay, this one, I could get behind. Alchemists would be way better and much cooler if they were related to discovering the 5th element "Aether", the Philosopher's Stone, and stuff like that). The name "Music Mage" would certainly fit in with the names "Fighting Man" and "Magic-User", but that name wouldn't/doesn't fly in 5e ("Fighter" is still a semi-contentious name, as it's so bland. IMHO, "Warrior" or something similar would be way better). Bard works. [/QUOTE]
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