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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 8391328" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Nope. <em>You</em> are missing the point.</p><p></p><p>That might have been the very first thing you <em>wrote</em> - but it is not the first thing that people read.</p><p></p><p>The thread title and therefore the very first thing people read when they click on the thread is "<strong>Bards Should Be Half-Casters in 5.5e/6e</strong>"</p><p></p><p>This is what you talk about first and what people read first. You chose to lead with how bards should be nerfed and half their magical power should be taken away. If you didn't mean that you shouldn't have lead with that.</p><p></p><p>It might not have been what you intended to write but it is what you wrote.</p><p></p><p>1: They don't get more actions</p><p>2: Their physical combat actions are worse (and hence worth less) than non-casters</p><p>3: Their magical actions are worse because their magic is significantly weaker</p><p></p><p>So no matter what they do their contribution in that moment is worse. There are ways to get round this (such as smites and bonus actions) - but these do not work unless carefully written.</p><p></p><p>OK. So now you're just admitting you did not bother to read what you were replying to. There was evidence presented. And it is not "fully inaccurate" - a work round to a problem (as the paladin gets) is a workround dealing with a core issue.</p><p></p><p>If you had actually read what you were replying to then you'd know I <em>explicitly</em> mentioned that Paladins had Divine Smite which avoids the action economy issue and that is why they work.</p><p></p><p>Um, how about you actually read and address your own OP to figure out what you were actually saying - especially with the title that you yourself wrote either because it accurately summarises your position, it is clickbait, or it was a mistake. Maybe that would help get your points across. And once you've read your own OP and not accused me of dishonesty because I think that a post starts with a title you could actually read what I am writing and not use the very things I've pointed out as workrounds.</p><p></p><p>Do that, and then we'll talk.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 8391328, member: 87792"] Nope. [I]You[/I] are missing the point. That might have been the very first thing you [I]wrote[/I] - but it is not the first thing that people read. The thread title and therefore the very first thing people read when they click on the thread is "[B]Bards Should Be Half-Casters in 5.5e/6e[/B]" This is what you talk about first and what people read first. You chose to lead with how bards should be nerfed and half their magical power should be taken away. If you didn't mean that you shouldn't have lead with that. It might not have been what you intended to write but it is what you wrote. 1: They don't get more actions 2: Their physical combat actions are worse (and hence worth less) than non-casters 3: Their magical actions are worse because their magic is significantly weaker So no matter what they do their contribution in that moment is worse. There are ways to get round this (such as smites and bonus actions) - but these do not work unless carefully written. OK. So now you're just admitting you did not bother to read what you were replying to. There was evidence presented. And it is not "fully inaccurate" - a work round to a problem (as the paladin gets) is a workround dealing with a core issue. If you had actually read what you were replying to then you'd know I [I]explicitly[/I] mentioned that Paladins had Divine Smite which avoids the action economy issue and that is why they work. Um, how about you actually read and address your own OP to figure out what you were actually saying - especially with the title that you yourself wrote either because it accurately summarises your position, it is clickbait, or it was a mistake. Maybe that would help get your points across. And once you've read your own OP and not accused me of dishonesty because I think that a post starts with a title you could actually read what I am writing and not use the very things I've pointed out as workrounds. Do that, and then we'll talk. [/QUOTE]
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