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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 8392360" data-attributes="member: 59057">No!I come from ADnD and for the first 8 or 9 levels they progressed about as fast as wizards when you look at xp, not at level. They were 2/3 casters officially and when everyone peogressed equally in 3.x they were nerfed heavily. Especially if you also considered theat they even lost one slot per spell level which they only gained back with high cha (unlike the wizard who kept their spell slots and got bonus spells on top). Bards as full casters with magical secrets on top gave them the flavour back that I missed in 3e.If they would cast spells with int and also had a spell(song) book, I would be even more happier. In 5e they are not real full casters in my opinion actually. Full casters (sorc, wiz, some druids, some cleric) all gain abilities to either get more spells over the course of the day (spell points, arcane recovery, natural recovery) or have a very powerful spell like feature (channel divinity). Bard usually lack such abilities or are more or less pure casters that only use the bard class as chassis. I could however live with real 2/3 caster, which I think would be possible to add to 5e with no problem and give a bit more room for subclass features and inapirational abilities. But half caster is too harsh (look at what people write about the artificer, who coul as well become 2/3 caster and still be balanced).</blockquote>